Guest Heino Posted January 3, 2013 Share Here is my ten cents... Some scammers go and market products, normally things of high value at very cheap prices. "Too good to be true prices" what they do then, is when you call them, they say you need to pay a deposit to retain the bike because they have limited stocks... that is where you, the victim, get caught... So it might not be fake pinarello's but you might get scammed! Another warning i would like to give... If you advertise something for sale, theres these people who call you and dont ask questions about price, mileage, condition, they ask you basically nothing. They then meet up with you and make an "EFT" and you have been had.... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/125065-fake-pinas-on-gumtree/page/12/#findComment-1896212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted January 3, 2013 Share Why pay 50k if you can get the exact same thing for 20k????? Would you buy your next TV from a recognized shop or from the fella selling one at a bargain price that "disappeared off the truck" on the way to the shop? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/125065-fake-pinas-on-gumtree/page/12/#findComment-1896213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escapee.. Posted January 3, 2013 Share As a matter of interest, I have a client who imports Chinese replacement parts for a certain luxury German brand of cars.He has very few comebacks. He said there is a problem with a specific part he sells and he has had 5 returned out of 200 sold I like how everyone just ignores this post... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/125065-fake-pinas-on-gumtree/page/12/#findComment-1896226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_w_65 Posted January 3, 2013 Share I get plenty calls and emails from ads. I tell them straight I am not meeting them anywhere and it is strictly cash notes and I never hear from them again. I had a call today from a lady, she wants my Cannondale desperately for her husbands birthday, yadda yadda yadda.... They tried to scam my mates quad bike, the buyer paid someone to drop off the bank cheque and collect the quad, the police grabbed the guy and he said he had been paid R200.00 by the buyer - they could not arrest him for that. My friend then went to Carte Blanche and they fitted trackers to four overpriced quads on Gumtree, tracked them to Mozambique and found the ring leader was running the operation from prison using his cellphone. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/125065-fake-pinas-on-gumtree/page/12/#findComment-1896227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_w_65 Posted January 3, 2013 Share I like how everyone just ignores this post... Ask the Chinese for 1000 bicycles, they ask you how much you want to spend per unit. They can make it for $10, $100 or $1000, you get what you pay for. Buy clothes at Edgars, made in China. Go to Bruma and buy similar clothing for 10% of the price. It is not the same thing. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/125065-fake-pinas-on-gumtree/page/12/#findComment-1896233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRADA Posted January 3, 2013 Share Toyota made a press statement some years back stating that they were NOT Toyota motors in those cars. GWM are using old tooling from a 1970s Toyota to make their own motors I heard from my cousin they now have mitsubishi motors, he just bought one, very nice vehicle. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/125065-fake-pinas-on-gumtree/page/12/#findComment-1896234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGR Posted January 3, 2013 Share Friend of mine got scammed out of R10k worth of photographic equipment, recieved an sms from the 'bank', got email confirmation everything. After being scammed he called the guy (Nigerian) who just laighed at him and told him he is an idiot and if he transferred R5k into his account he would ship the stuff back .... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/125065-fake-pinas-on-gumtree/page/12/#findComment-1896239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_w_65 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Same with Big Boy 200cc scrambler, Honda engine - NO, it is a copy of a 70's Honda engine and Honda does not care. The big Boy 200 puts out less than half the power in 2013 than my 1982 Honda XR200 put out Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/125065-fake-pinas-on-gumtree/page/12/#findComment-1896243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_w_65 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Lambretta scooter factory in Italy folded in 1970, the Indians bought the tooling and produced the identical scooter from 1972 to 1997 Big difference in quality, nobody wants an Indian one, in the UK a restored Italian one can fetch easy 7500 pounds Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/125065-fake-pinas-on-gumtree/page/12/#findComment-1896248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield2010 Posted January 3, 2013 Share How about this..... I will buy a Pinarello from China. If I ride it and like it then I will buy a real Pino in SA I dont wanna pay R50k for a bike before even riding it? Edited January 3, 2013 by Garfield2010 JGR 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/125065-fake-pinas-on-gumtree/page/12/#findComment-1896253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_w_65 Posted January 3, 2013 Share After the war the Russians stole the design of the German BMW with sidecar (BMW could not really say much, lol), they are still built today but are not good quality. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/125065-fake-pinas-on-gumtree/page/12/#findComment-1896257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_w_65 Posted January 3, 2013 Share How about this..... I will buy a Pinorello from China. If I ride it and like it then I will buy a real Pino in SA I dont wanna pay R50k for a bike before even riding it? I am 100%% sure that any cheap Chinese Pina frame you buy is a knock off. The official factory would never allow frames to be leaked out. Buy one and take it to the local agent, I bet they will point out at least 20 differences China can send rockets into space but they can also build cheap junk, as cheap as the west requests Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/125065-fake-pinas-on-gumtree/page/12/#findComment-1896263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield2010 Posted January 3, 2013 Share I am 100%% sure that any cheap Chinese Pina frame you buy is a knock off. The official factory would never allow frames to be leaked out. Buy one and take it to the local agent, I bet they will point out at least 20 differences China can send rockets into space but they can also build cheap junk, as cheap as the west requests Well at least I will look cool? And as far as I am concerned that is all that is important .... And after I am done riding the "fake" bike I am gonna sell it on the Hub for R45,000. By the way, anybody got some Zip stickers for me?? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/125065-fake-pinas-on-gumtree/page/12/#findComment-1896269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Ruinaard Posted January 3, 2013 Share I am laughing at this last post. If their quality is so lousy then you have just dissed about 90% of the folks on the hub as China makes all their frames. I would be very careful about that cheap perception on Chinese goods.... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/125065-fake-pinas-on-gumtree/page/12/#findComment-1896270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanga Posted January 3, 2013 Share .Why pay 50k if you can get the exact same thing for 20k????? Oh just because it is IP theft, immoral, wrong and illegal, other than that there is no real issues.How about this..... I will buy a Pinarello from China. If I ride it and like it then I will buy a real Pino in SA I dont wanna pay R50k for a bike before even riding it?Sure it would be like stealing an S Class out of the showroom, driving it for a few months and if you like it you go and pay for it. Edited January 3, 2013 by Kanga Garfield2010 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/125065-fake-pinas-on-gumtree/page/12/#findComment-1896273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_w_65 Posted January 3, 2013 Share I am laughing at this last post. If their quality is so lousy then you have just dissed about 90% of the folks on the hub as China makes all their frames. I would be very careful about that cheap perception on Chinese goods.... My post? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/125065-fake-pinas-on-gumtree/page/12/#findComment-1896276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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