Eldron Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 very cool point... but its kinda like guys like lemond are paying for the success of "david george". Doesnt seem fair? yeah yeah - lifes not fair Personally I dont think Lemond won his titles on "bread and water" so I'm probably the wrong person to ask. He sounds clean but if you take a look at cycling over the last 50 years do you really think Lemond could win clean against Pot Belge? Not me. Simeoni - I don't think Lance had much of an impact on his life. His little fisticuffs with Lance probably helped turn his bland career into a vanilla career.
fandacious Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Personally I dont think Lemond won his titles on "bread and water" so I'm probably the wrong person to ask. He sounds clean but if you take a look at cycling over the last 50 years do you really think Lemond could win clean against Pot Belge? Not me. Simeoni - I don't think Lance had much of an impact on his life. His little fisticuffs with Lance probably helped turn his bland career into a vanilla career. im not saying any of them are / were clean. I'm saying lances behaviour sucked. you dope? fine. they're all doping. but the way he played it was major unfair to the rest.
Jaco-fiets Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 If/when he goes down i really hope he takes allot of people with him and cause the biggest shitstorm in the history of sport. This will most likely cripple the sport of cycling to an extent that it might not recover soon. This is indirectly what most of you hope for. I am all for "if you do the crime, you must do the time" type of thing. So he might either go down solo by just admitting and bailing and take whatever comes to him or he can say "screw that" and bring down the entire crew. This crew might go deeper than we would like to think. Im sure he doped but i will still watch the epidsode and surely buy the book. Nothing much happening in cycling apart from this anyway.
fandacious Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 If/when he goes down i really hope he takes allot of people with him and cause the biggest shitstorm in the history of sport. This will most likely cripple the sport of cycling to an extent that it might not recover soon. This is indirectly what most of you hope for. I am all for "if you do the crime, you must do the time" type of thing. So he might either go down solo by just admitting and bailing and take whatever comes to him or he can say "screw that" and bring down the entire crew. This crew might go deeper than we would like to think. Im sure he doped but i will still watch the epidsode and surely buy the book. Nothing much happening in cycling apart from this anyway. its too late to take anyone down. he can maybe implicate contador, but there arent really any current pro's who were from that era. The best he can hope for is to make pat an hein grovel.
nickc Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 its too late to take anyone down. he can maybe implicate contador, but there arent really any current pro's who were from that era. The best he can hope for is to make pat an hein grovel.Would not mind seeing that - all this **** happened on their watch !!
Jaco-fiets Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 im not saying any of them are / were clean. I'm saying lances behaviour sucked. you dope? fine. they're all doping. but the way he played it was major unfair to the rest. Don't flame the guy for being a master tactition. If the others were clever enough they would have done it the same. Obviously they were not. Well that is if it was even Lance who orchestrated it. In my opinion he was just the tool
Jaco-fiets Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 its too late to take anyone down. he can maybe implicate contador, but there arent really any current pro's who were from that era. The best he can hope for is to make pat an hein grovel. I think taking down fellow pros might be the last thing on his mind. Im talking about the funding behind the scenes
Tumbleweed Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 ....yawn...rumour has it that the Pope's a Catholic.....can anybody confirm that? And Jodie Foster is lesbian? ChUkKy 1
Wyatt Earp Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) Don't flame the guy for being a master tactition. If the others were clever enough they would have done it the same. Obviously they were not. Well that is if it was even Lance who orchestrated it. In my opinion he was just the tool OK I promised only one sentence but I am now in "soek and moer" mode. I like your first sentence, very true.We are looking at a much bigger fraud than the one genetic freak who managed to outperform all the other genetically gifted athletes around him that were part of this huge farce. We were entertained, sponsors got their money, countries kept their pride and some managed to brag better than others, the one man that managed the outperform the rest, he is now the victim. And cute little Tyler will make millions with his book, cheats don't publish, let's not forget that little old nugget of forgiveness. Edited January 15, 2013 by Dangle Jaco-fiets and Showtime 2
Eldron Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 im not saying any of them are / were clean. I'm saying lances behaviour sucked. you dope? fine. they're all doping. but the way he played it was major unfair to the rest. The only way it was infair to the rest is that he did it better than them. Better dope.Better technology.Better team.Better tactics.<insert long list here> Ag we've batted this one around before. Call me a fanboy but I don't see Lance as any worse than all the other that cheated. The equation is the same - cheatcheatcheat, denydenydeny, confessconfessconfess - keep all the wealth and fame. Bazinga! Job well done. All Lance did was take cheating from the dirty backstreets to the laboratories. Jaco-fiets and StevieL 2
Wyatt Earp Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 And Jodie Foster is lesbian? And not even a sexy one at that, Sir. Anthony should have chowed her too. ChUkKy and NotSoBigBen 2
nickc Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 And Jodie Foster is lesbian? http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0901/lesbian-training-demotivational-poster-1232725809.jpg ChUkKy 1
Tumbleweed Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 And not even a sexy one at that, Sir. Anthony should have chowed her too. With fava beans and a nice Chianti…
Delilah Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Well that is if it was even Lance who orchestrated it. In my opinion he was just the toolYeah, he is a real tool...
Wyatt Earp Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 With fava beans and a nice Chianti… With those two, the cheeks are the best.
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