Bikes for Enduro... The restart

[Guest Omega Man]

Is that prince charles 

HEY! A little respect there fella. That's mountain biking Royalty.

[Bizkit031]

I still really like this bike .... it is almost as if it has my name on it!

 

http://ep1.pinkbike.org/p4pb10227364/p4pb10227364.jpg

Yea looks better with the 2 legs not 1 pogo leg.

[Iwan Kemp]

Is that prince charles 

 

Close...

 

[Iwan Kemp]

Prince Charles and her winning Ibis Prototype

http://enduro-mtb.com/en/ews-bike-check-anne-caros-ibis-27-5-prototype/

 

http://enduro-mtb.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/New-Ibis-2015-0949-780x520.jpg

[Iwan Kemp]

http://enduro-mtb.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/New-Ibis-2015-0952-780x520.jpg

[Hairy]

Second pic of the bike looks better 

[Hairy]

Nice and neat on Mrs Prince Charle's bike

 

http://enduro-mtb.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/New-Ibis-2015-0956-780x520.jpg

With the DW link now positioned behind the seat tube, a shock clevis is now used to drive the shock.

[Hairy]

What would have caused the markings in line with the chainring on the drive side chain stay ..... a flexy rear making contact with a bigger (say 36t) chainring (34t as pictured) or chain suck?

 

http://enduro-mtb.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/New-Ibis-2015-0955-780x520.jpg

The prototype runs a SRAM XX1 drive-train with a 34 tooth chainring.

[Iwan Kemp]

What would have caused the markings in line with the chainring on the drive side chain stay ..... a flexy rear making contact with a bigger (say 36t) chainring (34t as pictured) or chain suck?

 

http://enduro-mtb.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/New-Ibis-2015-0955-780x520.jpg

The prototype runs a SRAM XX1 drive-train with a 34 tooth chainring.

 

Chainring size

[Hairy]

with so many "enduro racers" using front chain guides, are NW chainrings overkill when I am sure a std nice and deep SS chainring will do?

[Iwan Kemp]

I'd rather say chain guides are overkill. Look at how many guys were doing Rampage without them.

 

Which reminds me...

[LegsEleven]

Hi Guys.

This looks like an appropriate thread for my following question.

 

Im moving the UK at the beginning of next year and im looking to get a trail/enduro bike with 150 to 160mm of travel.

 

Iv seen a few bikes on chain reaction cycles such as Nukeproof an Commencal that look like they are going for a reasonable price. I just wanted to get you guys that are in the know when it comes to enduro opion on the brands, and what i should be looking for. Im clueless in the area of MTB's

 

I really like riding technical stuff and jumps but my current marathon racing bike doesnt like the big jumps to much. It looks like the enduro/trail scene is huge over there compared to marathon scene so im thinking of changing my riding a bit and moving over to the baggie short clan

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

I'd rather say chain guides are overkill. Look at how many guys were doing Rampage without them.

 

Which reminds me...

Wouldn't you rather take the 150gr penalty and have peace of mind??

[Iwan Kemp]

Wouldn't you rather take the 150gr penalty and have peace of mind??

A wise man once asked this: If you have already spare parachute, should't you maybe pack another just for peace of mind?

 

Okay, he wasn't that wise and the topic of discussion was spoke weight / gauge and when is enough enough, but the guy did get his point across. 

 

So...if it was me I'd to what ACC does and run both. 150g is nothing.

 

She lost the title this thanks to a puncture on Whistler's 4th stage. If not for that she'd be champ this year. I'm sure given the opportunity she'd go back and build in another 150gr somewhere if that meant a puncture could have been avoided. But, much like Bianchi in F1 now, you simply can't cover every eventuality or you'd have guys jumping out of planes strapped to a gazillion parachutes. 

 

Somewhere in this fine thing we call racing you have to draw the line and chance your luck. 

 

So...being me (at present moment) I look at my riding history and trail side breakdowns and choose not to ride with anything but a multitool with me. In 10 years of riding I've only needed more than that once. Once when I was in the middle of Petrus-se-brand with not a soul in sight to help.

 

I also don't ride with a spare tube. In 10 years of riding I've only needed a spare tube twice. Once thanks to Spez stupid thing sidewalls and stupid thin tubes and once cause I fitted a non-snakeskin front tire in haste to get a bike on the trail. 

 

Of those it's only Petrus-se-brand I regret. It's a killer trail and I would have LOVED to have finished that ride at speed. 

 

Anyway...long story short...history shows quite a bit what future possibly holds...the rest is life and you take it as it comes. Even more so when you're racing at the front...

 

Edit: #PhilosophicalPhednesday

Edited October 8, 2014 by Iwan Kemp

[Capricorn]

the rampage analogy is not apt one in my opinion, as the guys are not pedalling over rough stuff for long periods of time, and the landings are not that brutal that the suspension can't soak it up unless they did it wrong, at which point, losing a chain is the least of their problems.

i've never lost a chain going off a drop or jump, but rather while riding through rock gardens where there is incessant jolting with the suspension working within a very narrow range. I imagine this is exactly what enduro racers need to hedge against. NW is whatevs IMO. chain guide + clutch rear mech is perfect.

I dont think those enduro pro's are putting on chainguides cos their NWs were working so well...

 

So my perspective is: chainguide is as close to failsafe as you'll get. So if your riding results in lots of chain drops for no other reason than the rough, get a chain guide.

Edited October 8, 2014 by Capricorn

[Iwan Kemp]

the rampage analogy is not apt one in my opinion...

 

Fair enough in terms of riding. I was aiming at the "peace of mind" side of it. Why risk when there's no reason to or no apparent drawback to it. Not like they're worried about weight watching.