LCHF - Low Carb High Fat Diet Ver 2

[davetapson]

All set for Berg and Bush... 3 x 100g Macs, 3 x 100g droe wors.

 

And sundry bars and gels that have dust and spiderwebs on them, just in case.

 

[Cuppa Bru]

Which PnP has 95%?

WW had 90% for a short while at R31/100gr.

[DaleE]

Which PnP has 95%?

WW had 90% for a short while at R31/100gr.

 

Claremont - Cape Town

[DaleE]

And sundry bars and gels that have dust and spiderwebs on them, just in case.

 

Is that your "security blanket" ?

Seriously, consider Ucan super-starch instead of those ... will have the same carb-supplying effect but without the spike and dip.

[Leon Besaans]

Is that your "security blanket" ?

Seriously, consider Ucan super-starch instead of those ... will have the same carb-supplying effect but without the spike and dip.

 

I can vouch for that, seriously, why is UCAN not discussed more, or known about more??

 

Maybe cause it really works and its not a marketing company, just saying!!

 

Regards

[davetapson]

Is that your "security blanket" ?

Seriously, consider Ucan super-starch instead of those ... will have the same carb-supplying effect but without the spike and dip.

 

Part of the dusty collection is UCAN.

 

But, I still believe that the spike / dip when exercising is over played. There is enough research out there to say it doesn't happen (due to exercise induced GLUT4 translocation). Bottom line is that it doesn't matter what you stick down your throat WHEN EXERCISING.

 

Prior to exercising, a low gi product would probably be better as it would reduce the insulin spike / BG dip that you get when ingesting carbs while not exercising (and that you certainly don't want in the 30mins before a race).

 

My own experience is that the bars/whatever security blanket is actually unnecessary - anything that contains carbs from the water tables works fine - bananas, coke whatever.

[Leon Besaans]

Part of the dusty collection is UCAN.

 

But, I still believe that the spike / dip when exercising is over played. There is enough research out there to say it doesn't happen (due to exercise induced GLUT4 translocation). Bottom line is that it doesn't matter what you stick down your throat WHEN EXERCISING.

 

Prior to exercising, a low gi product would probably be better as it would reduce the insulin spike / BG dip that you get when ingesting carbs while not exercising (and that you certainly don't want in the 30mins before a race).

 

My own experience is that the bars/whatever security blanket is actually unnecessary - anything that contains carbs from the water tables works fine - bananas, coke whatever.

 

Not convinced here, but thats just my own experience. I find that I dont need anything but water and maybe a handfull of nuts on long endurance rides when I am fuelled up with UCAN. If I stop and peck at waterpoints etc my energy levels drop off dramatically.

 

Regards

[Helpmytrap]

Not convinced here, but thats just my own experience. I find that I dont need anything but water and maybe a handfull of nuts on long endurance rides when I am fuelled up with UCAN. If I stop and peck at waterpoints etc my energy levels drop off dramatically.

 

Regards

As long as you're not confusing "cafe' legs" with a drop in energy. The reason I hate stopping is because it takes so long to get going again.

[Cuppa Bru]

I remember those halfway group ride stops. Body would be like a fired-up turbo prior and then useless after the 4 minute stop until about a half hour later when I was good to go again.

[Nancy Drew]

Day 6, still feeling tired and from time to time I feel dizzy. I'm hanging in there in the hope that things will get better.

 

I was chuffed that the prof responded to one of my tweets, I just really hope it doesn't last for 6 weeks and is closer to 2!

 

Tim Noakes @ProfTimNoakes

 

 

@Mtb_Nancy More patience required. Initial adaptation takes 2-6 weeks. Your symptoms likely due to removal of addictive sugar/wheat

 

 

 

 

03:20 PM - 07 Oct 13

 

 

 

so to all you experienced LCHFérs, how long did your "adaptation" take? and when do I start getting thin?

[htone]

Day 6, still feeling tired and from time to time I feel dizzy. I'm hanging in there in the hope that things will get better.

 

I was chuffed that the prof responded to one of my tweets, I just really hope it doesn't last for 6 weeks and is closer to 2!

 

Tim Noakes @ProfTimNoakes

 

 

@Mtb_Nancy More patience required. Initial adaptation takes 2-6 weeks. Your symptoms likely due to removal of addictive sugar/wheat

 

 

 

 

03:20 PM - 07 Oct 13

 

 

 

so to all you experienced LCHFérs, how long did your "adaptation" take? and when do I start getting thin?

 

Well done on getting a tweet back from the Prof !

 

My carb flu lasted from about day 3 - 6 and after the 2nd week I started feeling amazingly well, waking early in the morning, feeling refreshed and did not have energy dips during the day. My adaptation to burning fat effectively as fuel probably took 6 - 8 weeks and I think the real muscle adaptation took significantly longer, probably only after month 4 could I perform at previous exertion levels.

 

I lost weight initially, then stalled, then dropped steadily from about month 3 or 4 and at about month 6 I became "weight stable" - at a weight about 7 - 10kg above where I would have wanted it to be, but I am working on that one

[Cuppa Bru]

Nancy Drew, check your salt intake. That (sodium and potassium) and H20 need to be increased drastically initially to overcome carb flu.

The lack of sugar (and other carbs) causes an adaptation in your body.

Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

Edited October 10, 2013 by schweinehund

[htone]

Just on the salt - get some rock or crystal salt and add that to your food or bulletproof coffee, normal table salt tastes vile compared to the rocksalts.

[vayamo]

Someone asked me the same question the other day. Below is my answer - this is regards the documentary movies, not the LCHF type interviews on the drive:

 

Depends on what you are interested in.

 

"Food Inc" is a must see on my list, not about LCHF, but about what is happening to the food chain....

 

"In search of the Perfect Human diet" is about Paleo / LCHF and is a good watch too.

 

Start with those then take it from there.

 

If you have kids - then make sure you watch "Generation Rx" at some point !

 

Thanks Htone.

[Helpmytrap]

[P.A.K.]

Apparently Tim Noakes was in Carte Blanche last night. Unfortunately only found out now