LCHF - Low Carb High Fat Diet Ver 2

[htone]

I've been following this thread (and the original) on the sidelines intrigued by the weight loss and energy benefits that you guys are experiencing.

 

My reasons for adopting this diet are however different. I have stage IV colon cancer metastised to the lungs. A Pet CT scan in January got me thinking about reducing my blood glucose to stop feeding the cancer. I have recently started measuring my blood glucose and it sits in the mid to upper 5s. Sometimes over, sometimes under. I would think it should be lower.

 

I'll keep at it and see how it goes.

 

I start chemo again in a few weeks and eating is always a challenge. I think I am the only person who becomes a devouring monster and just end up eating crap.

 

Thanks for some good advice.

 

Bro, you have huge guts in posting this and I can only send you the very, very best in healing thoughts.

 

Cancer cells are about 200x more efficient than "regular" cells in burning glucose for energy, so the logical conclusion has been that you could starve the cancer cells by super-restricting your intake of glucose (or carbs in general). I am attaching a document on ketones that may shed some light on this - it may be a little technical but I think you may find some value in this.

 

Your BG sounds about right, but what you may find beneficial is to really keep your carb intake to an absolute minimum - by that I mean not eating ANYTHING that is not absolutely essential to keep your engine turning. Once you start with LCHF and get through the first week or three you may find that your cravings for junk food diminish completely - well worth giving it a go and keep asking if you need any advice.

 

Strongs and much white light to you.

 

VANITALLIE_NUFERT_ketones_ugly_duckling.pdf

[Dirtbreath]

Thanks htone.

 

I am on my phone so can't read the article properly but will get through it asap. What I did see were the benefits of ketogenic diet in assisting people with epilepsy. I am aware of this benefit and it was the treatment of choice until epileptic drugs and it kind of fell by the wayside.

[Dirtbreath]

Sorry, to add, I am in ketosis. Bought ketostix from @flexia and have between trace and ++ ketones. I'm not that hungry nowadays and make a great mac nut butter which I just scoop from the container to snack.

 

Have been reading up ( on recommendation from Prof Noakes ) about Otto Warberg and now Johanna Budwig.

 

I have lost 9kgs (96 to 87) since Jan but can probably atribute some to water loss ( I swell up on cortisone ) and just being more physically active since I completed my last chemo in December.

 

 

[htone]

Thanks htone.

 

I am on my phone so can't read the article properly but will get through it asap. What I did see were the benefits of ketogenic diet in assisting people with epilepsy. I am aware of this benefit and it was the treatment of choice until epileptic drugs and it kind of fell by the wayside.

 

That same principle applies to cancer treatment - and there's a lot of info on the web as you have undoubtedly already discovered !

 

I am a big Dr Mercola fan - so here's a quick link from his site: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/06/16/ketogenic-diet-benefits.aspx

 

One of the key points being: "Your normal cells have the metabolic flexibility to adapt from using glucose to using ketone bodies. Cancer cells lack this ability so when you reduce carbs to only non-starchy vegetables, you effectively starve the cancer."

[Titusrider]

Just did my first 3 hour MTB ride after 4 weeks on LCHF. Rode all of 60 Kim's on water and rode faster on this route than I ever had...losing 3kg's perhaps

[htone]

Right, here's a Dropbox link with some reading material for you all (there's even a book for HappyMartin !). Not everything is LCHF-specific, but most of it is focused on Nutrition in general then.

 

I will continue to add docs as I rummage through my folders and find stuff that may be of interest. Please let me have your feedback !

 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/erzuuauqjgt3oay/tD5ubEFGmr

[Helpmytrap]

https://www.dropbox....3oay/tD5ubEFGmr

Francois, could you add this to the original post?

[krouxsa]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8242/8594909572_036fe0aef3.jpg

 

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8528/8594903294_74dcb62bab.jpg

 

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8520/8594903010_2174f7b5c2.jpg

 

Buy your own whole sirloin or whole rump and make your own billies. So much better testing.

Just have a look at that nice yellow fat!!!

Edited August 5, 2013 by krouxsa

[jcza]

Link about racing low carb vs racing with carbs

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23905657/?i=4&from=performance,%20sport

[htone]

Link about racing low carb vs racing with carbs

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm....formance, sport

 

Thanks, this bears out what we are all saying methinks. Low and slow on LC is like running on diesel, VO2Max effort and you have to start filling your petrol tank !

[jcza]

 

 

Thanks, this bears out what we are all saying methinks. Low and slow on LC is like running on diesel, VO2Max effort and you have to start filling your petrol tank !

 

Yip low & slow can go for hours but when you're revving the engine you need carbs. As Friel & Courdain says fat burns in a carb fire. The amount of carbs I take is between 20 & 40 grams per hour depending on how hard the racing is.

[htone]

Buy your own whole sirloin or whole rump and make your own billies. So much better testing.

Just have a look at that nice yellow fat!!!

 

The one advantage of living inland is that you have dry air (at least during winter) and you can hang the billies to dry like you have shown. At the coast we have no option but to use a dryer.

 

@tombeej, having had some time to mull over your design and having looked at some of the commercial units available, have you not thought of adding a small extraction fan to the top of that box to speed up the drying ? See pic below.

 

[Mike Bike]

my own experiences this weekend were very interesting. ive been on the diet for about 4 weeks now. also this week cut out all beer. i started saturdays race with not much steam. had 32GI high gi mix in my bottle. after about 15kms i came alive...like never before had huge amount of steam. and only drank about half the bottle...so something is working very well

[wonduhboy]

Link about racing low carb vs racing with carbs

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm....formance, sport

my concern with this study, is that the low-carb athletes hadn't been LC for a long time. 48hours isn't really long enough to become fat adapted.

I'd like to see something similar, but with athletes who have been LC for a few months...

[jcza]

my own experiences this weekend were very interesting. ive been on the diet for about 4 weeks now. also this week cut out all beer. i started saturdays race with not much steam. had 32GI high gi mix in my bottle. after about 15kms i came alive...like never before had huge amount of steam. and only drank about half the bottle...so something is working very well

 

Remember 3 towers last year after the coke? High GI definitely gives you a boost.

 

It will be interesting to see such a study wonduhboy but from own experience (not scientific) racing with no carbs leads to bonking.

[htone]

Remember 3 towers last year after the coke? High GI definitely gives you a boost.

 

It will be interesting to see such a study wonduhboy but from own experience (not scientific) racing with no carbs leads to bonking.

 

There are studies like that, and if I am not mistaken at least one was done by Dr Phinney himself. Will have a look and see if I can find it.