jamiecanter Posted June 1, 2013 Posted June 1, 2013 I'll only rate Froome if he is able to do the Tour de France, Sub 3 Argus double Nimby 1
GrumpyOldGuy Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 "Froome goes in as red-hot favorite to win the Tour and possibly the only guy that could have beaten him would have been Bradley." Sutton, Sky's Team Principal Hmm, sounds a bit rich to me,............ says who.? Oh, Yeah, Mr Sutton, his team principle, makes sense.! I guess the other 5 odd red hot favorites dont count then.?
dracs Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) Hmm, sounds a bit rich to me,............ says who.? Oh, Yeah, Mr Sutton, his team principle, makes sense.! I guess the other 5 odd red hot favorites dont count then.?Well yes him and the bookies...! Actually some interesting wild cards I would consider a flutter on (if I were a betting man)... Uran - 200/1, even J-Rod at 14/1....   C Froome 10/11 M Scarponi 300/1 B Feillu 500/1 A Contador 15/8 P Sagan 300/1 L L Sanchez 500/1 Joaquin Rodriguez 14/1 R Kreuziger 300/1 S Gerrans 500/1 T Van Garderen 25/1 T Martin 300/1 B Wiggins N Quintana 25/1 F Kessiakoff 300/1 S Casar 500/1 R Porte 25/1 R Costa 300/1 V Kiryienka 500/1 A Schleck 25/1 T Voeckler 300/1 M Moser 500/1 C Evans 25/1 N Roche 300/1 G Thomas 500/1 A Valverde 25/1 J C Peraud 300/1 C Le Mevel 500/1 R Hesjedal 50/1 J Gadret 400/1 D Arroyo 500/1 J Van Den Broeck 66/1 J Brajkovic 400/1 P Gilbert 500/1 D Martin 80/1 J Vanendert 400/1 F Cancellara 500/1 T Pinot 100/1 C A Sorensen 400/1 P Velits 500/1 P Rolland 100/1 R Taaramae 400/1 M Nieve 500/1 A Talansky 150/1 L Westra 400/1 M Monfort 500/1 R Gesink 150/1 A Kloden 400/1 H Zubeldia 500/1 T De Gendt 150/1 B Mollema 400/1 E Boasson Hagen 500/1 D Cunego 200/1 P Niemiec 400/1 B Intxausti 500/1 R Uran 200/1 I Anton 400/1 R Kiserlovski 500/1 S Henao 200/1 L Leipheimer 500/1 D Pozzovivo 500/1 I Basso 250/1 F Pellizotti 500/1 S Kruijswijk 500/1 J J Cobo 300/1 M Rogers 500/1 D Navarro 500/1 J Coppel 300/1 C Kern 500/1 C Horner 500/1 J Fuglsang 300/1 edit - sorry tables don't paste well - heres a link: http://www.paddypowe.../tour-de-france  And here: http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en-gb/betting/e/3630084/Tour-de-France-2013-Winner.html   Chris Froome  17/10 Alberto Contador  14/1 Joaquim Rodriguez  20/1 Nairo Quintana  22/1 Alejandro Valverde  25/1 Andy Schleck  25/1 Tejay Van Garderen  28/1 Cadel Evans  33/1 Richie Porte  33/1 Ryder Hesjedal  40/1 Jurgen Van Den Broeck  50/1 Pierre Rolland  50/1 Thibaut Pinot  66/1 Samuel Sanchez  80/1 Rigoberto Uran  80/1 Robert Gesink  100/1 Damiano Caruso  100/1 Daniel Martin  100/1 Denis Menchov  100/1 Domenico Pozzovivo  100/1 Haimar Zubeldia  100/1 Igor Anton  100/1 Jakob Fuglsang  100/1 Rein Taaramae  100/1 Sergio Henao  100/1 Thomas De Gendt  125/1 Franco Pellizotti  150/1 Andrew Talansky  150/1 Benat Intxausti  150/1 Daniel Moreno  150/1 Edvald Boasson Hagen  150/1 Frederik Kessiakoff  150/1 Janez Brajkovic  150/1 Jonathan Tiernan-Locke  150/1 Juan Jose Cobo  150/1 Michael Rogers  150/1 Michele Scarponi  150/1 Roman Kreuziger  150/1 Vasil Kiryienka  200/1 Andreas Kloden  200/1 Damiano Cunego  200/1 Geraint Thomas  200/1 Ivan Basso  200/1 Jean-Christophe Peraud  200/1 Kevin Seeldraeyers  200/1 Levy Leipheimer  200/1 Mikel Nieve  200/1 Nicholas Roche  200/1 Paolo Tiralongo  200/1 Peter Sagan  200/1 Peter Velits  200/1 Rui Costa  200/1 Sergey Lagutin  200/1 Edited June 3, 2013 by dracs
Bat-ass Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 i see Leipheimers name there? wasnt he bombed in light of Lances confession?
dracs Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 i see Leipheimers name there? wasnt he bombed in light of Lances confession?no he got the same soft-cock suspension in the off season the rest of them got.
'Dale Posted June 3, 2013 Author Posted June 3, 2013 POLL FOR YELLOWÂ I replaced Wiggo with Andy Schleck.
'Dale Posted June 3, 2013 Author Posted June 3, 2013 Moer! I see Schleckie received 4 votes already. Gummi', you can only vote once now, eh? urbanroyal 1
jcza Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 i see Leipheimers name there? wasnt he bombed in light of Lances confession? I thought he retired?
dracs Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 I thought he retired?Ja I think you are correct actually...
'Dale Posted June 3, 2013 Author Posted June 3, 2013 I thought he retired? Just recently.Very low-key announcement.
urbanroyal Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 At the 200 / 1 odds on Uran...I"ll put a grand on him....you never know...
T-Bob Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 Robert Millar throws it out there about the 'real' reason Twiggy isn't going to play at the tour. Â http://www.cyclingnews.com/blogs/robert-millar/tales-from-the-underground-the-honeymoon-is-over-for-sky-and-wiggins
SwissVan Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 Robert Millar throws it out there about the 'real' reason Twiggy isn't going to play at the tour. http://www.cyclingne...sky-and-wiggins Hmm seems like there is not much love lost there....touch of sarcasm with Millars comments "The can't train reason might have been valid if he hadn't been doing four-hour rides, trying to hit the required numbers. As anyone who has experienced that kind of pain will tell you can't ride even 30 minutes under any kind of effort with a knee injury so four hours, really?" "This season hasn't been a patch on 2012 for Wiggins and it seems that despite following head coach Tim Kerrison's menu for success like he did previously, this time around he hasn't been hitting the numbers and the results haven't been there. Cue head falling off and the onset of unhappiness"
dracs Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 Robert Millar throws it out there about the 'real' reason Twiggy isn't going to play at the tour. http://www.cyclingne...sky-and-wigginssounds pretty speculative to me - but who knows!
T-Bob Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 Hmm seems like there is not much love lost there....touch of sarcasm with Millars comments "The can't train reason might have been valid if he hadn't been doing four-hour rides, trying to hit the required numbers. As anyone who has experienced that kind of pain will tell you can't ride even 30 minutes under any kind of effort with a knee injury so four hours, really?" "This season hasn't been a patch on 2012 for Wiggins and it seems that despite following head coach Tim Kerrison's menu for success like he did previously, this time around he hasn't been hitting the numbers and the results haven't been there. Cue head falling off and the onset of unhappiness" For sure, you've got to love RM though as everyone else pussy foots around being all diplomatic about it.  Read a great article from him last year on the problems Sky were going to face when they did the whole 'did you dope' interviews. His theory was that they should have been a bit more like Garmin in working with reformed riders and staff rather than cutting them off wholesale. Seems a lot of what was written is coming true over at the Sky camp now with a lot of new back room staff, rider management, too many chiefs etc...
'Dale Posted June 3, 2013 Author Posted June 3, 2013 sounds pretty speculative to me - but who knows! I reckon Wiggo is not as motivated and hungry after reaching so many milestones in his career.Self-fulfilled. Complete. Done. Finito. T-Bob 1
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