Super J Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 Hi guys! I've recently started training relatively hard for the upcoming Duathlon season,being a relatively good Time trial rider, I am concentrating on putting down a good running base but I am struggling with over pronation, which in turn is causing severe plantar tendonitis,due to my arches colapsing! Are there any really good prosthetic inner soles I can try or a podiatrist that some one can recommend in Pta! Thank you Jay: 0832339674
Newboy Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 SuperJ, the most important thing is to get the right shoes. I had the same issues and shoes made all the difference. I used to buy my shoes from Sportsman's now I buy from the Sweatshop in Fourways Crossing. The guys there is extremely knowledgeable. I know SBR in Sunninghill is probably the best, in future I will go there. Hope that helps. mr_stig 1
Milkworx Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 SuperJ, the most important thing is to get the right shoes. I had the same issues and shoes made all the difference. I used to buy my shoes from Sportsman's now I buy from the Sweatshop in Fourways Crossing. The guys there is extremely knowledgeable. I know SBR in Sunninghill is probably the best, in future I will go there. Hope that helps.+1I went to SBR a few weeks ago, they do a full leg assessment, give them a try!http://www.sbrsport.co.za/
Agteros Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) I'm not a real iron man. I'm precluded from providing advice. I'll refrain lest I be reported for misrepresentation. but then again, I have rigid feet with high arches and I run in flat neutral shoes. Prefer sandals though. What do I know.... Edited June 3, 2013 by agteros
SwissVan Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 I'm not a real iron man. I'm precluded from providing advice. I'll refrain lest I be reported for misrepresentation. but then again, I have rigid feet with high arches and I run in flat neutral shoes. Prefer sandals though. What do I know.... Are you the hubber who made his own sandals to run in, had a thread here a few years back with pictures and all?
cowboylegs Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 running is for people who steal stuff Cuppa Bru and Bubblez 2
Witkop Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) I'm not a real iron man. I'm precluded from providing advice. I'll refrain lest I be reported for misrepresentation. but then again, I have rigid feet with high arches and I run in flat neutral shoes. Prefer sandals though. What do I know.... Okay as another wannabe duathlete, as agteros (don't believe he is a wannabe, as he has some real race credentials) hinted at, running shoes are in a rather controversial space at the moment.There is more and more evidence and antedotal evidence that running shoes are redundant and even counter productive (very musch like the 29er debate). The growing position is that barefoot, upright, short stride running is better than the long stride, shod running we all have grown accustom to. The orginal advice in your case was to buy very rigid montion control or anti pronation shoes, like brooks beast, or sacouny grids or something similar. The alternative advice is to go barefoot with vivo barefoot, vibran five fingers, or new balance minius. THe point will be that you will have to "Start from Scratch" short runs, with short pace, with lots of "Squat sitting" to strengthen your foot muscles and stretch your archilles tendons. in other words instead of compensating for your weaknesses with shoes, rather focus on teh weakness and strengthen it (and thereby reduce injuries on the long term). I have gone barefoot from heavy motion control shoes, it has taken a year and I can now start running sub 45min 10kms and complete intervals training at about 4min/km. So yes on the short term you will lose speed, but in the end you run more comfortably, with more efficiency. but then I am still a duathlon wannabe Edited June 3, 2013 by Witkop
dracs Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) Mike at SBR is your man!Does Mike charge for this assessment? Edited June 3, 2013 by dracs
Eldron Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 I'm also firmly in the netural minimal shoe brigade (not sure I'll ever be barefoot hardcore!). I had endless ITB issues when I first converted from cycling to duathlon. I went for numerous tests, trial runs, assessments and general "we know science" stuff. I was told over and over that I needed motion control shoes. I bought 5 or 6 pairs with zero success - the only way I could run was 3 weeks on with loads of physio followed by 1 week rest to allow the ITB to deswell. It was misery. One day I was at my chiro having my back mended after an accident and he mentioned that he had a little foot tester. I jumped on and he confirmed that theoretically I need motion control shoes but said that my body had spent 30 years getting used to my pronation so why was I trying to undo all that work? I bouoght some neutral shoes and never looked back - no pain - no swollen ITB. Joy! Recently I've been buying thinner and thinner shoes with less and less heel to toe difference and feeling even better. My theory is that we could run barefoot on soft surfaces (grass, sand etc) - all we need is some cushioning for the cement and tar - no motion control - no anti pronation - no artificial foot guidance of any type. Jeepdude and Agteros 2
davetapson Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 +1I went to SBR a few weeks ago, they do a full leg assessment, give them a try!http://www.sbrsport.co.za/ Can't get through to their phone... what did they charge for an assessment?
Witkop Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 I'm also firmly in the netural minimal shoe brigade (not sure I'll ever be barefoot hardcore!). I had endless ITB issues when I first converted from cycling to duathlon. I went for numerous tests, trial runs, assessments and general "we know science" stuff. I was told over and over that I needed motion control shoes. I bought 5 or 6 pairs with zero success - the only way I could run was 3 weeks on with loads of physio followed by 1 week rest to allow the ITB to deswell. It was misery. One day I was at my chiro having my back mended after an accident and he mentioned that he had a little foot tester. I jumped on and he confirmed that theoretically I need motion control shoes but said that my body had spent 30 years getting used to my pronation so why was I trying to undo all that work? I bouoght some neutral shoes and never looked back - no pain - no swollen ITB. Joy! Recently I've been buying thinner and thinner shoes with less and less heel to toe difference and feeling even better. My theory is that we could run barefoot on soft surfaces (grass, sand etc) - all we need is some cushioning for the cement and tar - no motion control - no anti pronation - no artificial foot guidance of any type. Now here is real advice from a real duathlete, who cooked us all up at the GN/CG trails this year. Pity to was over committed and was unable to do the same at the SA champs. Agteros 1
Garfield2010 Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 Read the book "Born to Run" by Christopher McDougal.......... It's the bible of running
dracs Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 Read the book "Born to Run" by Christopher McDougal.......... It's the bible of runningGive us the précis...?
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