Guest Latent Blue Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 these threads are the hub's own worst enemaHere we have it!!! No matter who you are... that done there is funny!!!the hub is a constipated ......!
Lucky Luke. Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 Imagine 1000 years from now, there are no more cyclists. Historians must piece together the concept of cycling by reading the hub. One of them tries to learn to ride a bike by reading the Rant n' Rave section, but dies of old age after reading only 10% of the threads. The autopsy reveals a brain crippled by dry rot due to endless repetition of nonsense. Antoo 1
Captain K'nuckles Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 I must disagree. As a daily commuter, I am constantly amazed at how recklessly people drive cars. My experience has also been that taxis are of the most considerate drivers to cyclists. HappyMartin, pastapouch, Antoo and 1 other 4
Wipeout2 Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 A lot more posts since I hopped off yesterday............Icycling I was being sarcastic (just by the by), I have been riding a bike since I could walk (not hauling out the slong), tricycle, chopper, BMX (to give away my age, I had the first black scorpion that came out), then moved on to road cycling (15km to school and 15km back every day for my entire high school career.....broken collar bone, fractured ribs, etc......................blah blah blah blah and I still cycle, MTB (on the road and trails) Truth be told, we are all guilty at some point of being an A hole on a bike, in a car, etc........don't tell me everyone on this site is holier than though (never skipped a stop street or a red robot, went over the speed limit....you did'nt, well good on you!!), so back to the original question I still stick by my answer that I as a cyclist can be my own worst enemy. Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1
Patchelicious Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 The only thing these threads seem to accomplish is to show that hubbers seem more focused on taking other hubbers posts apart, instead of actually debating the topic at hand.
Captain K'nuckles Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 The only thing these threads seem to accomplish is to show that hubbers seem more focused on taking other hubbers posts apart, instead of actually debating the topic at hand. Not been here long, and that seems about right.
fabes Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 I must disagree. As a daily commuter, I am constantly amazed at how recklessly people drive cars. My experience has also been that taxis are of the most considerate drivers to cyclists.So as a commuter (using the roads daily) do you appreciate other cyclists putting you in a bad light because they cycle like a bunch idiots?
Captain K'nuckles Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 So as a commuter (using the roads daily) do you appreciate other cyclists putting you in a bad light because they cycle like a bunch idiots? Perhaps. But I must add that the cycling infrastructure here is so lacking, that excess conflict is inevitable. A number of factors contribute to the skewed perceptions on both sides. GaryvdM 1
HappyMartin Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 Perhaps. But I must add that the cycling infrastructure here is so lacking, that excess conflict is inevitable. A number of factors contribute to the skewed perceptions on both sides. Now just a moment Red Baron. Don't come out with your logical common sense rubbish here. You are going to spoil all the fun. Ed-Zulu 1
Wayne Potgieter Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 Now just a moment Red Baron. Don't come out with your logical common sense rubbish here. You are going to spoil all the fun.TheHub is no place for logic. Ed-Zulu 1
Lucky Luke. Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) So as a commuter (using the roads daily) do you appreciate other cyclists putting you in a bad light because they cycle like a bunch idiots? Apart from the negative effect on their own safety - I don't much care how other cyclists behave - as it has nothing to do with me. I didn't teach them to ride and they didn't teach me. We don't compare notes on how many stop streets we run at monthly tea parties and I don't know every single Argus entrant on a one to one basis. HOWEVER. When I do see somebody endangering their own life on a bike, I will stop and make them aware of this. I don't want to see any more dead bodies than I already have on my daily pedal. I do draw the line however, at using the hub as an instructional manual on how to cycle - or worse - as seen here - as a mouthpiece to criticise somebody you cycled past on the weekend - seriously? Completely pointless in my opinion. Save it for when you're doing the deed. It does seem VERY odd to me that cyclists continually voice this concern that other riders 'paint us in a bad light' or whatever. You don't find car drivers worrying about this - how other drivers behave - as if this would reflect badly on them as road users - a little ridiculous when you put it like that no? Actually many bad drivers are quite proud of being **** at it, and can often be heard regaling crowds at parties with stories of their *** driving, or how they got one over on some other road user. This behavior is totally acceptable, because roads were built for cars not bikes, and cars are after all much bigger than bikes, so you better bloody watch yourself around them. Obviously many drivers will be **** and as a cyclist you should look the fark out and stay in the gutter at all times. Such seems to be the prevailing attitude anyways - on the hub and off it. Edited June 25, 2013 by Lucky Luke.
fabes Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 Perhaps. But I must add that the cycling infrastructure here is so lacking, that excess conflict is inevitable. A number of factors contribute to the skewed perceptions on both sides.The cycling infrastructure is not great at all in this country. That is why I think cyclists using the roads have to be extra careful and we have to be more alert than if we had to use roads in other countries. We know in SA our motorists are terrible. We no they are not law abiding. We know they are going to pass cyclists dangerously. They do this all because our government won't place heavy fines in place to prevent this from happening in the future. But what really gets to me is people coming onto a cycling forum which is meant to be a community and start bashing motorists and saying why must we obey the rules as cyclists when half the motorists jump red lights and over take on solid lines etc. We as cyclists are meant to look out for each other right? So why the hell are we defending cyclists cycling two abreast. They are the reason motorists won't respect cyclists on the road. Yesterday I saw a cyclist jump a red light to join a main road. The cyclist didn't even yield and look right and proceed to jump the robot. No he just proceeded at his normal pace joining the road and a passing motorist had to move out to avoid not getting close to the cyclist. I thought to myself let me stop and speak to him about it, but decided against it... why? Well it's normally this group of people that give you the whole taxis do it and motorists do it so why should he stop there BS Cyclists are there worst enemies finished and klaar
Guest Smimby Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 Apart from the negative effect on their own safety - I don't much care how other cyclists behave - as it has nothing to do with me. I didn't teach them to ride and they didn't teach me. We don't compare notes on how many stop streets we run at monthly tea parties and I don't know every single Argus entrant on a one to one basis. HOWEVER. When I do see somebody endangering their own life on a bike, I will stop and make them aware of this. I don't want to see any more dead bodies than I already have on my daily pedal. I do draw the line however, at using the hub as an instructional manual on how to cycle. Completely pointless in my opinion. Save it for when you're doing the deed. It does seem VERY odd to me that cyclists continually voice this concern that other riders 'paint us in a bad light' or whatever. You don't find car drivers worrying about this - how other drivers behave - as if this would reflect badly on them as road users - a little ridiculous when you put it like that no? Actually many bad drivers are quite proud of being **** at it, and can often be heard regaling crowds at parties with stories of their *** driving, or how they got one over on some other road user. This behavior is totally acceptable, because roads were built for cars not bikes, and cars are after all much bigger than bikes, so you better bloody watch yourself around them. Obviously many drivers will be **** and as a cyclist you should look the fark out and stay in the gutter at all times. Such seems to be the prevailing attitude anyways - on the hub and off it.+1000 How funny would it be, to see on a caravaning forum where they moan about other Caravan people driving slowly, overtaking on a hill etc etc...... Lucky Luke. 1
Captain K'nuckles Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 The cycling infrastructure is not great at all in this country. That is why I think cyclists using the roads have to be extra careful and we have to be more alert than if we had to use roads in other countries. We know in SA our motorists are terrible. We no they are not law abiding. We know they are going to pass cyclists dangerously. They do this all because our government won't place heavy fines in place to prevent this from happening in the future. But what really gets to me is people coming onto a cycling forum which is meant to be a community and start bashing motorists and saying why must we obey the rules as cyclists when half the motorists jump red lights and over take on solid lines etc. We as cyclists are meant to look out for each other right? So why the hell are we defending cyclists cycling two abreast. They are the reason motorists won't respect cyclists on the road. Yesterday I saw a cyclist jump a red light to join a main road. The cyclist didn't even yield and look right and proceed to jump the robot. No he just proceeded at his normal pace joining the road and a passing motorist had to move out to avoid not getting close to the cyclist. I thought to myself let me stop and speak to him about it, but decided against it... why? Well it's normally this group of people that give you the whole taxis do it and motorists do it so why should he stop there BS Cyclists are there worst enemies finished and klaar Please just don't include me in that we.
fabes Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 Apart from the negative effect on their own safety - I don't much care how other cyclists behave - as it has nothing to do with me.You honestly believe that?
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