EPO BOOST

[Werner Al]

Read a review in the Ride Magazine about EPO BOOST and VO2 BOOST from BRL. I know they massive in the States, great to see this is now available in South Africa not sure from whom yet, have contacted BRL and waiting for a reply.

[arendoog]

Life is to short not to try it .Mix with a bit of growth hormone and testosterone .Man i am getting old .I need all 3

Edited September 30, 2013 by Blitzer

[amoryns]

already available from usn.....

[TopFuel]

This is the biggest crock of s**t I have ever seen in my life.

 

Natural EPO supplement, but certified drug-free? With the usual absolutely no scientific backup at all approach to taking people's hard-earned money from them?

 

You want a higher haematocrit? Go train in the mountains. Simple as that. Or take real EPO. You know, like Lance was.

[ivr32]

“Since using EPO Boost and EnduraFuel in my training and racing I have seen substantial improvements in my ability to train harder and race faster at lower percieved exertions than ever before. Getting on the podium at Kona World Championships was a career highlight for me! ” Dan McCluskey

 

Ricky Flynn, a seven time All-American used EPO-BOOST in his preparation for the 2012 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials. Having finished 12th with a sub-2:14 time, Ricky stated that his performance and endurance were substantially improved with EPO-BOOST. “After using EPO-BOOST for just a few weeks I felt stronger, especially on harder effort and higher intensity runs,” Ricky Flynn.

[ivr32]

This is the biggest crock of s**t I have ever seen in my life.

 

Natural EPO supplement, but certified drug-free? With the usual absolutely no scientific backup at all approach to taking people's hard-earned money from them?

 

You want a higher haematocrit? Go train in the mountains. Simple as that. Or take real EPO. You know, like Lance was.

 

All Natural Sports Supplement EPO-BOOST® was scientifically engineered to stimulate the production of EPO (erythropoietin).

EPO increases red blood cell levels and blood volume. The ingredients in the patent-pending formula address the four major limitations on red blood cell production; namely, EPO levels, red blood cell nutrients, iron availability, and inflammation.

 

Click on any ingredient below to review the peer-reviewed clinical studies.

EPO Production

 

EPO has been shown to dramatically increase endurance in athletes. EPO is produced primarily in the kidneys and acts on the bone marrow to stimulate the release of new red blood cells into the bloodstream (erythropoiesis). Four capsules of EPO-BOOST® provide 8 grams of echinacea purpurea, an amount shown to significantly increase EPO production in athletes.

Echinacea purpurea

Red Blood Cell Nutrients

 

EPO-BOOST^® provides all the nutrients essential for proper red blood cell production including folate, iron and vitamin B-12.

Boron

Vitamin B-3 ( Niacinamide)

Vitamin B-6 (Pyridoxine HCL)

Folate (Folic Acid)

Vitamin B-12 (Cobalamin)

Inositol

Iron Availability

Red blood cells require iron to carry oxygen in the blood. EPO-BOOST® provides iron and herbs with high iron content (dandelion and yellow dock) for proper red blood cell formation. Sports supplement EPO-BOOST® also contains other nutrients that improve iron absorption from the diet (vitamin C, nickel and vitamin B-3).

Iron

Dandelion Extract

Yellow Dock Extract

Vitamin C

Vitamin B-3 ( Niacinamide)

Nickel

Antioxidants

The endurance athlete’s training regimen is rigorous, often resulting in inflammatory conditions that can impede red blood cell production and decrease iron absorption from the diet. EPO-BOOST^® contains potent antioxidants to promote a non-inflammatory environment in athletes for proper red blood cell production.

Alpha-lipoic Acid

Lutein

Lycopene

Choline

PABA

[Blackadder]

With the usual absolutely no scientific backup at all approach to taking people's hard-earned money from them?

 

I am as sceptical as anyone, but to be fair, they do publish links to a number of actual clinical studies, published in reputable journals.

 

Are you saying they have "absolutely no scientific backup" because you did not notice the links to published studies, or because you have read the published studies and concluded that they provide "absolutely no scientific backup"

Edited September 25, 2013 by Blackadder

[W@nna-BE]

already available from usn.....

in what product??

[NeverEnder]

I am as sceptical as anyone, but to be fair, they do publish links to a number of actual clinical studies, published in reputable journals.

 

Are you saying they have "absolutely no scientific backup" because you did not notice the links to published studies, or because you have read the published studies and concluded that they provide "absolutely no scientific backup"

 

It falls under the category of "Bad Science" which include

• Extrapolating studies outside their scope of reference
  
• Non-peer reviewed studies “dressed” as legitimate mainstream accepted knowledge
  
• Misrepresenting of results to imply more than the original study concluded
  
• Making very long leaps of logic – i.e. taking lab studies (not a scientific clinical blind study analysis on human subjects) of potentially unrelated chemical processes and then stringing them all together to infer that it will be the “necessary” outcome in human biology.
  
• Etc etc
  

 

Here is a link to educate yourself on some of the techniques used by many pharmaceuticals and the health industries PR deparments

 

http://www.ted.com/talks/ben_goldacre_battling_bad_science.html

[Bianchisti]

Where is it on the shelves?

[amoryns]

Where is it on the shelves?

 

vo2max

all dischems

 

guess everyone will now rush to get this crap

[amoryns]

 

in what product??

vo2max

[fandacious]

vo2max

all dischems

 

guess everyone will now rush to get this crap

 

Yes! this is awesome. Now I dont need to train. I can just pop a few pills/potions and start winning races.

 

Seriously. If you think ANY of this stuff makes the slightest difference you're delusional. Get off your ass and go ride your bike

[Blackadder]

It falls under the category of "Bad Science" which include

• Extrapolating studies outside their scope of reference
  
• Non-peer reviewed studies “dressed” as legitimate mainstream accepted knowledge
  
• Misrepresenting of results to imply more than the original study concluded
  
• Making very long leaps of logic – i.e. taking lab studies (not a scientific clinical blind study analysis on human subjects) of potentially unrelated chemical processes and then stringing them all together to infer that it will be the “necessary” outcome in human biology.
  
• Etc etc
  

Here is a link to educate yourself on some of the techniques used by many pharmaceuticals and the health industries PR deparments

 

http://www.ted.com/t...ad_science.html

 

Thanks for the lecture. On what basis can you say that the studies referenced here are guilty of this methodological error?

 

Lets be clear, I am not disagreeing that many pharmaceutical companies make false or grossly exaggerated claims about their products. They do so all the time, and it is totally unacceptable. That is Bad Science indeed.

 

What we are discussing is whether the particular references to numerous published clinical trials reported on here are guilty of so doing.

 

I am not a medical doctor, and am not in a position to reach a conclusion either way.

 

I am however fairly sure that posting a reference to a Ted Talk claiming (correctly) that some companies are guilty of Bad Science is not the same as demonstrating that this particular company is guilty of Bad Science.

 

We rightly expect pharmaceutical companies to embrace evidence based methodologies and back up their claims. Its only fair for us to do the same.

[Warren911]

They should just ask lance if he would use it, if not then it's bad science:ph34r:

[TopFuel]

I am as sceptical as anyone, but to be fair, they do publish links to a number of actual clinical studies, published in reputable journals.

 

Are you saying they have "absolutely no scientific backup" because you did not notice the links to published studies, or because you have read the published studies and concluded that they provide "absolutely no scientific backup"

 

I went and read their articles. There is one study I have come across that shows a benefit for EPO levels, but no difference in Hb, Hct or VO2max. And a systematic review (much better than anecdotal evidence @ivr32) of the topic concluded that there is little to no benefit in taking high doses of echinacea to improve performance in athletes.

 

The problem I have with this company is that they plaster their webpage with all this pseudosicence bullsh*t, have a couple of people claim it helped them and start raking in the cash.