Cippo Posted March 15, 2014 Share If they are found guilty, Epic has a policy that you will never again be allowed to ride Epic. Am I right in my understanding? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137270-two-riders-out-of-absa-cape-epic-due-to-doping/page/3/#findComment-2240770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoBigBen Posted March 15, 2014 Share Not from what I heard, he doesnt get paid anymore. He withdrew himself from the team and is no longer a licenced rider. (Disclaimer: I have no facts to back this up, 100% hearsay) If you dont ride for a team, dont get paid and dont have a licence, you are like the rest of us, for all intended purposes, a funrider. He 'owns' that team as far as I was aware .... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137270-two-riders-out-of-absa-cape-epic-due-to-doping/page/3/#findComment-2240771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoBigBen Posted March 15, 2014 Share If they are found guilty, Epic has a policy that you will never again be allowed to ride Epic. Am I right in my understanding? Yip, lifetime ban .... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137270-two-riders-out-of-absa-cape-epic-due-to-doping/page/3/#findComment-2240772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted March 15, 2014 Share Yip, lifetime ban .... The only race in the world that dictates these conditions.Pretty cool. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137270-two-riders-out-of-absa-cape-epic-due-to-doping/page/3/#findComment-2240774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankG Posted March 15, 2014 Share They should both be forced to still do the Epic, but without saddles. Edit: and wear a top that says: "I dope and I"m a cheat" That is punishment. Edited March 15, 2014 by discostu Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137270-two-riders-out-of-absa-cape-epic-due-to-doping/page/3/#findComment-2240780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted March 15, 2014 Share Wonder when the veil of anonymity will be lifted?After sample B have been tested? DARK KNIGHT and titus1 2 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137270-two-riders-out-of-absa-cape-epic-due-to-doping/page/3/#findComment-2240784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted March 15, 2014 Share I can see some wives outing their husbands. A life ban from epic could save marriages! sutla, DARK KNIGHT, Carmichael and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137270-two-riders-out-of-absa-cape-epic-due-to-doping/page/3/#findComment-2240790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankman Posted March 15, 2014 Share If they are found guilty, Epic has a policy that you will never again be allowed to ride Epic. Am I right in my understanding? The way I understood it, if you are caught cheating in the Epic, then a lifetime ban for the Epic would apply. If you are serving a 2 year ban or whatever the case might be, then you obviously wont be able to ride the Epic during that time. So if the ex dopers like David Millar, Alexander Vinokourov, Hoffman, Ullrich etc ... that served their bans, they would not be allowed to do the Epic because they doped somewhere in their career??? A life time ban for any doper? That does not sound right Excluding Lance obviously, he has been banned from cycling altogether. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137270-two-riders-out-of-absa-cape-epic-due-to-doping/page/3/#findComment-2240829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cippo Posted March 15, 2014 Share @ Tankman, the way I understood from the statement made on a cycling show at the time is that anyone guilty of doping after the rule was implemented is a ban from event irrespective if it was in Epic. I stand under correction but it was at the time of David George's case. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137270-two-riders-out-of-absa-cape-epic-due-to-doping/page/3/#findComment-2240834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cippo Posted March 15, 2014 Share From Epic website, http://www.cape-epic.com/involve/organisation/zero-tolerance-policy Any athlete (professional or amateur) sanctioned by their federation or national anti-doping authority (NADA) for use of performance enhancing drugs (PEDs) after 1 January 2013, whether at another event or out of competition, will be banned for life from participating in the Absa Cape Epic. Not only will the person not be allowed to participate (as an amateur rider or UCI- licensed elite), but the individual will also be banned from being involved on any level including as a team manager. Tankman 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137270-two-riders-out-of-absa-cape-epic-due-to-doping/page/3/#findComment-2240836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwan Kemp Posted March 15, 2014 Share From Epic website,http://www.cape-epic...olerance-policy Any athlete (professional or amateur) sanctioned by their federation or national anti-doping authority (NADA) for use of performance enhancing drugs (PEDs) after 1 January 2013, whether at another event or out of competition, will be banned for life from participating in the Absa Cape Epic. Not only will the person not be allowed to participate (as an amateur rider or UCI- licensed elite), but the individual will also be banned from being involved on any level including as a team manager. :thumbup: Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137270-two-riders-out-of-absa-cape-epic-due-to-doping/page/3/#findComment-2240848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwan Kemp Posted March 15, 2014 Share So "SwissVan" when were you appointed the official health police inforser seeing that now no rider with suspected healh issues are even allowed to participate in rides. So apart from asking riders to be tested for performance boosters, we are now also going to do test for being over weight, under weight, if you had a burger or beer the night before, or heaven forbid, a smoke! Maybe you and KV just want to make a name for yourselfs? "Bat", Quite a reaction there (I'm assuming due to drugs kicking in) with some wild assumptions. I didn't read that in Swiss' post or tone and I couldn't agree more with him and KV. It's a pity there aren't more events who take the same stance as the Epic. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137270-two-riders-out-of-absa-cape-epic-due-to-doping/page/3/#findComment-2240855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted March 15, 2014 Share So "SwissVan" when were you appointed the official health police inforser seeing that now no rider with suspected healh issues are even allowed to participate in rides. So apart from asking riders to be tested for performance boosters...Maybe you and KV just want to make a name for yourselfs? Wtf Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137270-two-riders-out-of-absa-cape-epic-due-to-doping/page/3/#findComment-2240857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydude Posted March 15, 2014 Share Easy to say ban them for life, but I would guess most funriders have 'doped' somewhere in the last few months leading up to the Epic by way of medicine and/or supplements etc. I'm just highlighting the practical side although I'm completely against doping. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137270-two-riders-out-of-absa-cape-epic-due-to-doping/page/3/#findComment-2240872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spark Posted March 15, 2014 Share Bet they are from CT. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137270-two-riders-out-of-absa-cape-epic-due-to-doping/page/3/#findComment-2241010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapunzel Posted March 15, 2014 Share Maybe if testing is not limited to podium finishers then run of the mill riders will be a bit more careful about what they're putting in their systems.As for intentionally taking performance enhancers: if you're doping for a top 3 finish or a top 300 finish - it still makes you a cheat. BrandonF_ 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137270-two-riders-out-of-absa-cape-epic-due-to-doping/page/3/#findComment-2241066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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