Cippo Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 If they are found guilty, Epic has a policy that you will never again be allowed to ride Epic. Am I right in my understanding?
NotSoBigBen Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Not from what I heard, he doesnt get paid anymore. He withdrew himself from the team and is no longer a licenced rider. (Disclaimer: I have no facts to back this up, 100% hearsay) If you dont ride for a team, dont get paid and dont have a licence, you are like the rest of us, for all intended purposes, a funrider. He 'owns' that team as far as I was aware ....
NotSoBigBen Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 If they are found guilty, Epic has a policy that you will never again be allowed to ride Epic. Am I right in my understanding? Yip, lifetime ban ....
'Dale Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Yip, lifetime ban .... The only race in the world that dictates these conditions.Pretty cool.
FrankG Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 (edited) They should both be forced to still do the Epic, but without saddles. Edit: and wear a top that says: "I dope and I"m a cheat" That is punishment. Edited March 15, 2014 by discostu
'Dale Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Wonder when the veil of anonymity will be lifted?After sample B have been tested? DARK KNIGHT and titus1 2
Shebeen Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 I can see some wives outing their husbands. A life ban from epic could save marriages! Carmichael, goya-goya, sutla and 1 other 4
Tankman Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 If they are found guilty, Epic has a policy that you will never again be allowed to ride Epic. Am I right in my understanding? The way I understood it, if you are caught cheating in the Epic, then a lifetime ban for the Epic would apply. If you are serving a 2 year ban or whatever the case might be, then you obviously wont be able to ride the Epic during that time. So if the ex dopers like David Millar, Alexander Vinokourov, Hoffman, Ullrich etc ... that served their bans, they would not be allowed to do the Epic because they doped somewhere in their career??? A life time ban for any doper? That does not sound right Excluding Lance obviously, he has been banned from cycling altogether.
Cippo Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 @ Tankman, the way I understood from the statement made on a cycling show at the time is that anyone guilty of doping after the rule was implemented is a ban from event irrespective if it was in Epic. I stand under correction but it was at the time of David George's case.
Cippo Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 From Epic website, http://www.cape-epic.com/involve/organisation/zero-tolerance-policy Any athlete (professional or amateur) sanctioned by their federation or national anti-doping authority (NADA) for use of performance enhancing drugs (PEDs) after 1 January 2013, whether at another event or out of competition, will be banned for life from participating in the Absa Cape Epic. Not only will the person not be allowed to participate (as an amateur rider or UCI- licensed elite), but the individual will also be banned from being involved on any level including as a team manager. Tankman 1
Iwan Kemp Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 From Epic website,http://www.cape-epic...olerance-policy Any athlete (professional or amateur) sanctioned by their federation or national anti-doping authority (NADA) for use of performance enhancing drugs (PEDs) after 1 January 2013, whether at another event or out of competition, will be banned for life from participating in the Absa Cape Epic. Not only will the person not be allowed to participate (as an amateur rider or UCI- licensed elite), but the individual will also be banned from being involved on any level including as a team manager. :thumbup:
Iwan Kemp Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 So "SwissVan" when were you appointed the official health police inforser seeing that now no rider with suspected healh issues are even allowed to participate in rides. So apart from asking riders to be tested for performance boosters, we are now also going to do test for being over weight, under weight, if you had a burger or beer the night before, or heaven forbid, a smoke! Maybe you and KV just want to make a name for yourselfs? "Bat", Quite a reaction there (I'm assuming due to drugs kicking in) with some wild assumptions. I didn't read that in Swiss' post or tone and I couldn't agree more with him and KV. It's a pity there aren't more events who take the same stance as the Epic.
'Dale Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 So "SwissVan" when were you appointed the official health police inforser seeing that now no rider with suspected healh issues are even allowed to participate in rides. So apart from asking riders to be tested for performance boosters...Maybe you and KV just want to make a name for yourselfs? Wtf
andydude Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Easy to say ban them for life, but I would guess most funriders have 'doped' somewhere in the last few months leading up to the Epic by way of medicine and/or supplements etc. I'm just highlighting the practical side although I'm completely against doping.
Rapunzel Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Maybe if testing is not limited to podium finishers then run of the mill riders will be a bit more careful about what they're putting in their systems.As for intentionally taking performance enhancers: if you're doping for a top 3 finish or a top 300 finish - it still makes you a cheat. BrandonF_ 1
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