jcza Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 WHY DID YOU FORGET YOUR FALSE TEETH AT HOME :ph34r: Hahaha.....at my age etc etc DIPSLICK 1
Eldron Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 I know what you're saying Eldron but I believe if the money is right (enough) the guys will line up to race. We need a redistribution of TV money, more for riders less for organisers. Munga offering more than TdF? Come on, its not right. The money would have to be huge - top riders earn 30-50 times the TdF prize money in sponsorships, endorsements, appearance fess etc. Standard practice is for the winner to not take any prize money but split it between the team. If top GCers were forced to ride all 3 grand tours I reckon we'd see them peak for 1 or 2 and diesel the others. That wouldn't make for better viewing...
Robrider Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) I know what you're saying Eldron but I believe if the money is right (enough) the guys will line up to race. We need a redistribution of TV money, more for riders less for organisers. Munga offering more than TdF? Come on, its not right. They don't do it for the race prize money. As Eldron said, they get more in sponsorship. If they could win the double or triple, they would with out question give it a shot, and not for the money. Edited June 2, 2014 by Robrider
jcza Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 The money would have to be huge - top riders earn 30-50 times the TdF prize money in sponsorships, endorsements, appearance fess etc. Standard practice is for the winner to not take any prize money but split it between the team. If top GCers were forced to ride all 3 grand tours I reckon we'd see them peak for 1 or 2 and diesel the others. That wouldn't make for better viewing... I think 30-50 times is maybe too steep but they certainly earn loads. I predict that there will be major changes in cycling in years to come similar to what we had in other sports such as cricket, football, golf etc. Someone will put up the money and top guys will race for it. Might even mean that we lose one of the Grand Tours. The teams cannot continue to rely on sponsorships and the way to do that is to let them earn more prize money.
HappyMartin Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 It's a team sport. Like rugby. Wouldn't you be a bit irritated if Bismark tackled Lambie as he was about to score a try? F1 isn't a team sport in the same way. Also expecting riders to compete in every race and ride like hell every day is what originally drove the drug culture. It's not humanely possible
jcza Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 They don't do it for the race prize money. As Eldron said, they get more in sponsorship. If they could win the double or triple, they would with out question give it a shot, and not for the money. Its 2014 and its professional, its about the money.
Eldron Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 I think 30-50 times is maybe too steep but they certainly earn loads. I predict that there will be major changes in cycling in years to come similar to what we had in other sports such as cricket, football, golf etc. Someone will put up the money and top guys will race for it. Might even mean that we lose one of the Grand Tours. The teams cannot continue to rely on sponsorships and the way to do that is to let them earn more prize money. Armstrong has a net worth of $125,000,000 - the rest of the blue train are between $30,000,000 and $70,000,000.... TdF pot is 0.3% of his nett wealth - Giro and Vuelta are less. I don't reckon he'd have tried all 3 tours for $3,000,000 each and he was allowed to use drugs back then. Sure my math is after the fact but I don't reckon there are enough sponsors to put in the cash required to attract top GCers to all 3 grand tours.
Joe Low Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 Golfers (hahahaha golfers, sportsmen hahahaha) - they dont go to all the events; so if the strolling jumpers find it hard, how much moreso proper sport? Same can be said of FA Cup and League Cup and Europa League in football. So many events, so much demand to see top contests, not enough supply of sportsfolk or top efforts possible from sportsfolk. Collectively we ask too much. Klaus and HappyMartin 2
T-Bob Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 It seems to be an 'angry Monday' all over today. From people walking up trails to slow cyclists at fun rides to grand tour professionals not flogging themselves enough. http://www.quickmeme.com/img/45/45bc0b26aa9ff1cb4ce40685dd2e7c56233a2fe4a8ecee7215747a2070221f8c.jpg nonky 1
Blackbeard Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 Armstrong has a net worth of $125,000,000 - the rest of the blue train are between $30,000,000 and $70,000,000.... Is this truly how much they are estimated to have made?
Red Zone Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 We need Lance backWhy? plenty other dopers in the peleton who have taken his place. nonky 1
HappyMartin Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 Why? plenty other dopers in the peleton who have taken his place. Yea? As bad as rugby you think? Two super rugby players this year show up with weird blood clots. No one says a word about EPO but even us cyclists feel free to have a go at the pro cyclists. This after Froome publicly complains that he hasn't been tested in three weeks. Complains mind you. And Serena said a few months back that she has been tested out of competition three times in her life. We think cycling has a problem? nonky, deanbean, tombeej and 1 other 4
Eldron Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 Is this truly how much they are estimated to have made? I got the info from here: http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/olympians/lance-armstrong-net-worth/ Endorsements were $20,000,000/year now he earns a paltry $15,000,000/year from public speaking.... nonky 1
Blackbeard Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 I got the info from here: http://www.celebrity...rong-net-worth/ Endorsements were $20,000,000/year now he earns a paltry $15,000,000/year from public speaking.... I had no idea that it was that much. I am particularly astounded by the figures for his erstwhile team mates.
deanbean Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 Yea? As bad as rugby you think? Two super rugby players this year show up with weird blood clots. No one says a word about EPO but even us cyclists feel free to have a go at the pro cyclists. This after Froome publicly complains that he hasn't been tested in three weeks. Complains mind you. And Serena said a few months back that she has been tested out of competition three times in her life. We think cycling has a problem?Take any other sport, and their testing protocols are piss-poor compared to cycling, even athletics, which is starting to up it's game. Pisses me off when fat-arse golfers have a lot to say, doping is rife in golf!!! Steroids and beta-blockers. HappyMartin 1
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