To Camelbak or Not to Camelbak

[love2fly]

In most MTB races there is often a bumpy high speed descent where you need to hit the brakes for a turn etc and there are ALWAYS a scattering of bottles littered everywhere (idea for another thread - what's the collective noun for many bottles?)...if that was my juice or my tools in a tool bottle I would cry....or feel like a ....tool!

Camelbak (the Ryder one is crap and have broken two!)....

I carry a spare but empty bottle in a single cage for a last very quick "splash n dash" to get me through to the end....

[Li Mu Bai]

In most MTB races there is often a bumpy high speed descent where you need to hit the brakes for a turn etc and there are ALWAYS a scattering of bottles littered everywhere (idea for another thread - what's the collective noun for many bottles?)...if that was my juice or my tools in a tool bottle I would cry....or feel like a ....tool!

Camelbak (the Ryder one is crap and have broken two!)....

I carry a spare but empty bottle in a single cage for a last very quick "splash n dash" to get me through to the end....

Leyzanne make a really secure bottle holder, both side entry and top entry that hold the bottles extremely well.

Tool bottles should always have some handy black duct tape securing them to the bottle cage, to stop that unwanted exit over the rocky stuff.

[Li Mu Bai]

A single solution that holds water/juice, tools, food, first aid kit and a raincoat as well as shedding weight off the bike and offering back protection with a waterproof pocket for your phone. What's not to like? 

Your centre of gravity is also much higher and asymetric making those fast runs in the berms feel more sketchy.

[Patchelicious]

In most MTB races there is often a bumpy high speed descent where you need to hit the brakes for a turn etc and there are ALWAYS a scattering of bottles littered everywhere (idea for another thread - what's the collective noun for many bottles?)...if that was my juice or my tools in a tool bottle I would cry....or feel like a ....tool!

Camelbak (the Ryder one is crap and have broken two!)....

I carry a spare but empty bottle in a single cage for a last very quick "splash n dash" to get me through to the end....

I can guarantee you it’s not as bumpy as the cobbled classic, and they don’t resort to cavemanesque solutions like using a Camelbak. A small piece of grip tape in your bottle cage solves this problem.

 

Trust the roadies to solve a MTBers issues.

[Jawns007]

So why then did  Fumic and Avancini use liquid back packs ( or Camelbaks for short)

 

The way I see it is that looking at their fast changes at the water points means they had special nutrition in each camelbak for a reason vs a bottle. 

 

Suppose they must be wusses as well.

 

Pretty much similar when Froome pulled away from Dumoulin in last years stage 19 of Giro to win it with correct bottles at each part of stage.

 

 

[Patchelicious]

So why then did Fumic and Avancini use liquid back packs ( or Camelbaks for short)

 

The way I see it is that looking at their fast changes at the water points means they had special nutrition in each camelbak for a reason vs a bottle.

 

Suppose they must be wusses as well.

 

Pretty much similar when Froome pulled away from Dumoulin in last years stage 19 of Giro to win it with correct bottles at each part of stage.

Wusses?? Who called anybody a wuss?? Bit sensitive aren’t we.

 

Funic was RACING the EPIC, not doing the 15km green loop at Meerendal.

 

Great first post, bravo!

[Grebel]

Your centre of gravity is also much higher and asymetric making those fast runs in the berms feel more sketchy.

 

Agreed to a certain extent, however if your lean angle in the berm is correct, all that weight is converted into centrifugal force pushing you into the face of the berm and driving you through with hopefully better traction. If you are more upright then that same force wants to throw you over the top resulting in the sketchy feeling.

[Traveler]

Is it important if another cyclist choose to use a Camelbak or not to use a Camelbak?

 

Should I frown if I ride past another rider with a Camelbak with a sufficient amount of hydration, or should I frown if I ride past another rider that has collapsed with heat exhaustion?

 

What I have noticed over many years of riding is, as we get more fit and we can spend more hours in the saddle and can ride at higher avg speeds we become riding snobs. We tend to make biased comments based upon our own one sided experiences, not considering that people are different and have different abilities and different aspirations.

 

Ride your bike of choice, ride it in your own way, choose the helmet and shoes suits you, kit yourself in what you think is necessary & ignore the riding snobs.

[DieselnDust]

Agreed to a certain extent, however if your lean angle in the berm is correct, all that weight is converted into centrifugal force pushing you into the face of the berm and driving you through with hopefully better traction. If you are more upright then that same force wants to throw you over the top resulting in the sketchy feeling.

 

 

 

For the same lean angle the higher CoG will always generate a higher righting moment at the velocity. Its physics. 

[DieselnDust]

Is it important if another cyclist choose to use a Camelbak or not to use a Camelbak?

 

Should I frown if I ride past another rider with a Camelbak with a sufficient amount of hydration, or should I frown if I ride past another rider that has collapsed with heat exhaustion?

 

What I have noticed over many years of riding is, as we get more fit and we can spend more hours in the saddle and can ride at higher avg speeds we become riding snobs. We tend to make biased comments based upon our own one sided experiences, not considering that people are different and have different abilities and different aspirations.

 

Ride your bike of choice, ride it in your own way, choose the helmet and shoes suits you, kit yourself in what you think is necessary & ignore the riding snobs.

 

 

Amen!!

[Grebel]

For the same lean angle the higher CoG will always generate a higher righting moment at the velocity. Its physics. 

 

IOW if you wear a pack on your back lean more. Besides it looks cooler when you drag a bar.

[Patchelicious]

Is it important if another cyclist choose to use a Camelbak or not to use a Camelbak?

 

Should I frown if I ride past another rider with a Camelbak with a sufficient amount of hydration, or should I frown if I ride past another rider that has collapsed with heat exhaustion?

 

What I have noticed over many years of riding is, as we get more fit and we can spend more hours in the saddle and can ride at higher avg speeds we become riding snobs. We tend to make biased comments based upon our own one sided experiences, not considering that people are different and have different abilities and different aspirations.

 

Ride your bike of choice, ride it in your own way, choose the helmet and shoes suits you, kit yourself in what you think is necessary & ignore the riding snobs.

No it’s not important what others think, that’s why most people don’t take being teased for their preferred things seriously.

 

The banter between cyclists and friends on morning rides is part of the sport. I get teased for my pink Rapha socks, or matching kit, or my lack of MTB skills all the time, but it’s all done with a level of affection.

 

Don’t take these chirps to heart, it’s all in good spirit.

 

But you should really consider dropping the back pack though.

[Patchelicious]

Amen!!

You saying amen to that post is literally the most ironic post of 2019. Amazing.

[henningvr]

......................But you should really consider dropping the back pack though.

No.

[PhilipV]

No it’s not important what others think, that’s why most people don’t take being teased for their preferred things seriously.

 

The banter between cyclists and friends on morning rides is part of the sport. I get teased for my pink Rapha socks, or matching kit, or my lack of MTB skills all the time, but it’s all done with a level of affection.

 

Don’t take these chirps to heart, it’s all in good spirit.

 

But you should really consider dropping the back pack though.

I've said to a mate on a ride that if someone doesn't know us, that person would think we hate each other based on how we chirp each other.

[gemmerbal]

Is it important if another cyclist choose to use a Camelbak or not to use a Camelbak?

 

Should I frown if I ride past another rider with a Camelbak with a sufficient amount of hydration, or should I frown if I ride past another rider that has collapsed with heat exhaustion?

 

What I have noticed over many years of riding is, as we get more fit and we can spend more hours in the saddle and can ride at higher avg speeds we become riding snobs. We tend to make biased comments based upon our own one sided experiences, not considering that people are different and have different abilities and different aspirations.

 

Ride your bike of choice, ride it in your own way, choose the helmet and shoes suits you, kit yourself in what you think is necessary & ignore the riding snobs.

Amen