Weight saving or suspension? 29er

[rouxtjie]

12kg full suspension with the option of lockout and with all the gears AND MAINTENANCE vs. 10kg solid rigid bike with limited gears... Seems like a no brainer. Just loose the 2kgs elsewhere (boep) and you're even on weight, but winning EVERYWHERE else.

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[JTK]

12kg full suspension with the option of lockout and with all the gears vs. 10kg solid rigid bike with limited gears... Seems like a no brainer. Just loose the 2kgs elsewhere (boep) and you're even on weight, but winning EVERYWHERE else.

lol! with that logic you may as well loose 7kg and ride makro bike with disc brakes . Just wont perform the same

 

But I get where you guys are going. Never been on a steel frame other than a "makro" bike.

Edited July 24, 2014 by JTK

[JTK]

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then there is the financial capital layout diffs between the two as well...

[rouxtjie]

then there is the financial capital layout diffs between the two as well...

Sure....all adds up.

[JTK]

I mean my 29er 9.somthing kg ride will cost me less than R10k if I sell the fork that it has on again. And there are still half a kilo in the wheels to loose. How much will a part XTR specced 29 susser of 12kg set me back at?

Edited July 24, 2014 by JTK

[Christie]

 

Few (if any) bikes at the world cup XC races run rigid forks. Olympic XC race was won on a dual. Perhaps the gain of less weight is offset by time lost over technical bits?

 

Stir for the day:

When is a 29er without suspension a mtb, and when is it a road bike with knobblies on? Is the rider a mountain biker or a dirt roadie?

[JTK]

Few (if any) bikes at the world cup XC races run rigid forks. Olympic XC race was won on a dual. Perhaps the gain of less weight is offset by time lost over technical bits?

 

Stir for the day:

When is a 29er without suspension a mtb, and when is it a road bike with knobblies on? Is the rider a mountain biker or a dirt roadie?

true. but you cant get 29er knobbies in a road frame. They dont fit

[rouxtjie]

Few (if any) bikes at the world cup XC races run rigid forks. Olympic XC race was won on a dual. Perhaps the gain of less weight is offset by time lost over technical bits?

 

Stir for the day:

When is a 29er without suspension a mtb, and when is it a road bike with knobblies on? Is the rider a mountain biker or a dirt roadie?

We don't ride the tech bits like the world cup athletes do(speed)...maybe the question should rather be, considering the speed at which we hit rock gardens / tech bits, do we really need the travel.

 

How is that for a stir?

 

And to answer your question all 29er owners are dirt roadies....they have made peace with this label. Another stir..

[bullet77]

We don't ride the tech bits like the world cup athletes do(speed)...maybe the question should rather be, considering the speed at which we hit rock gardens / tech bits, do we really need the travel.

 

How is that for a stir?

 

And to answer your question all 29er owners are dirt roadies....they have made peace with this label. Another stir..

Right there, most MTB'ers(on 29ers) I've met all spend a fair amount of time/km's on the tar on MTB, myself included.

Edited July 24, 2014 by bullet77

[shaper]

cross over to the dark side and get rid of the suspension and gears... go SS !!

[Pieter1]

I agree with everything rouxtjie said. I'll use suspension again when I am 87.

[JTK]

cross over to the dark side and get rid of the suspension and gears... go SS !!

I have a SS rigid as well set up with cyclocross tires. 26er with 29 rims and small tyres. Hence from here why I wanted to go with the carbon rigid fork on a 29er as the rigidity did not bug as much. But then again, I ride different surfaces with the two bikes... And no. I though about removing the casette off the bike and realised that I want it there so I can enjoy the ride more. 1to1 ratio for the hills and 1to3 for the flats... 1to2 only seems too much of a compromise. I spend very little time in the middle of the cassette on the 1x9. The cyclo cross setup is lekke for casual riding around town... Unfortunately dont have the knees to push those pedals up a steep incline

[Mojoman]

My Trance has been out of action for the last couple of weeks (again!) and I have been stuck on 'Ol' Donkey' (a GT hardtail that doesn't want to die!), got the parts for my repairs today and I cant wait to get my ass back on a dualie tomorrow afternoon! I miss the fun you can have, make no mistake, Ol Donkey goes to exactly the same places the Trance goes but the DS is a much nicer ride when you are out for the day jolling around. However the Trance is a good couple of KG's lighter than the GT so maybe this makes a big difference to comfort and handling?

Edited July 24, 2014 by Mojoman

[JTK]

My Trance has been out of action for the last couple of weeks (again!) and I have been stuck on 'Ol' Donkey' (a GT hardtail that doesn't want to die!), got the parts for my repairs today and I cant wait to get my ass back on a dualie tomorrow afternoon! I miss the fun you can have, make no mistake, Ol Donkey goes to exactly the same places the Trance goes but the DS is a much nicer ride when you are out for the day jolling around. However the Trance is a good couple of KG's lighter than the GT so maybe this makes a big difference to comfort and handling?

and believe it or not. That is the third and last bike in my stable. A 26er trance. Love it. I dont race. Rather enjoy cycling when I get the time. Trance for the rough stuff and 1x9 29'er for the more smooth stuff. The SS does not really see much riding anymore unfortunately. More due to being SS I feel than the rigit fork. Anyways. I think I will get a fork and try her out Edited July 24, 2014 by JTK