Brandon Stewart

[BarHugger]

Then say so first.

Then contribute to cleaner sport (community service as such ) by giving up your supplier, and blowing the whistle on others.

Then serve your ban.

Then go do the races that you are allowed to still compete in.

 

Do step 1 and 2, and people will be a lot more compassionate on your return.

^^^^^This guy^^^^^

 

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[Skubarra]

 

 

Its not about "punishing" the dopers, its about creating a bigger discouragement for future dopers who are thinking about it.

 

 

But based on what do you think it will actually be a meaningful discouragement to future dopers?

 

Lots of criminal studies show harsher sentences are not a deterrent to criminals, increasing the certainty with which criminals are caught & prosecuted is a far bigger deterrent.

 

Which is partly why I think this "life ban" campaign against ex-dopers is not only misguided but also a bit useless.

 

If you donate all the entry fees of the events you are now going to boycott in future to SAIDS so that they can do better & more frequent testing we will be making a much more meaningful contribution in the fight against doping than harassing ex-dopers, sponsors and race organisers on social media.

[Patchelicious]

 

 

 

But based on what do you think it will actually be a meaningful discouragement to future dopers?

 

Lots of criminal studies show harsher sentences are not a deterrent to criminals, increasing the certainty with which criminals are caught & prosecuted is a far bigger deterrent.

 

Which is partly why I think this "life ban" campaign against ex-dopers is not only misguided but also a bit useless.

 

If you donate all the entry fees of the events you are now going to boycott in future to SAIDS so that they can do better & more frequent testing we will be making a much more meaningful contribution in the fight against doping than harassing ex-dopers, sponsors and race organisers on social media.

 

You thinks its useless, others think its not.... Let them do their thing.

 

I am not going to donate my fees to SAIDS, I will simply prefer to use the fees that I was going to spend on races that allow dopers back and rather spend it on races that take a stance against dopers. I am not going to do less races and take entries away from the poor innocent people who run races that dont like dopers. Sis for even suggesting this

 

Tell you what, you contribute to SAIDS if you think it will help, others can conitinue their social media pressure, two angles get covered. Its a win win.

 

Many ways to skin a cat, or shoot a dog if thats more appropriate today.

[Patchelicious]

^^^^^This guy^^^^^

 

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I know its a joke.... Its sad though that these guys dont give them up.... oh well.

The day a doper actually does that, is the day I believe that he/she is sorry and wants to make a difference.

 

ps: Whatever happened to that pharmacists who almost ruined Darryl's career through his negligence?

[Wil6]

I know its a joke.... Its sad though that these guys dont give them up.... oh well.

The day a doper actually does that, is the day I believe that he/she is sorry and wants to make a difference.

 

ps: Whatever happened to that pharmacists who almost ruined Darryl's career through his negligence?

Now that is a joke

[BarHugger]

I know its a joke.... Its sad though that these guys dont give them up.... oh well.

The day a doper actually does that, is the day I believe that he/she is sorry and wants to make a difference.

 

ps: Whatever happened to that pharmacists who almost ruined Darryl's career through his negligence?

They are what we would call.....thick as thieves.........

[BDF]

I know its a joke.... Its sad though that these guys dont give them up.... oh well.

The day a doper actually does that, is the day I believe that he/she is sorry and wants to make a difference.

 

ps: Whatever happened to that pharmacists who almost ruined Darryl's career through his negligence?

I wonder if he got paid a handsome sum for his most useful testimony; or he got sued for all the appearance money Daryl lost during the time he couldn't race?

[carbon29er]

ps: Whatever happened to that pharmacists who almost ruined Darryl's career through his negligence?

 

 

Now that is a joke

 

 

They are what we would call.....thick as thieves.........

Well no one knows who he is because his evidence was by way of a secret sworn statement. With no cross examination.

[Pure Savage]

But based on what do you think it will actually be a meaningful discouragement to future dopers?

 

Lots of criminal studies show harsher sentences are not a deterrent to criminals, increasing the certainty with which criminals are caught & prosecuted is a far bigger deterrent.

 

Which is partly why I think this "life ban" campaign against ex-dopers is not only misguided but also a bit useless.

 

If you donate all the entry fees of the events you are now going to boycott in future to SAIDS so that they can do better & more frequent testing we will be making a much more meaningful contribution in the fight against doping than harassing ex-dopers, sponsors and race organisers on social media.

The races that ban dopers should test the top 20 of all categories, otherwise if you don't test you won't catch any dopers to give life bans to...

[Shebeen]

The races that ban dopers should test the top 20 of all categories, otherwise if you don't test you won't catch any dopers to give life bans to...

 

that won't ever happen...but how about taking more samples and storing them? can come back later and bulls eye someone over time.

[Patchelicious]

that won't ever happen...but how about taking more samples and storing them? can come back later and bulls eye someone over time.

This is why I never trust a stangers apple juice.

[Skubarra]

 

I am not going to donate my fees to SAIDS, I will simply prefer to use the fees that I was going to spend on races that allow dopers back and rather spend it on races that take a stance against dopers. I am not going to do less races and take entries away from the poor innocent people who run races that dont like dopers. Sis for even suggesting this

 

Tell you what, you contribute to SAIDS if you think it will help, others can conitinue their social media pressure, two angles get covered. Its a win win.

 

 

The way I see it no ex-doper will determine which races I can enter and which not but if hubbers feel like taking one for the team and missing out on a nice race to stick it to those ex-dopers then go out and shoot that dog 

[Patchelicious]

The way I see it no ex-doper will determine which races I can enter and which not but if hubbers feel like taking one for the team and missing out on a nice race to stick it to those ex-dopers then go out and shoot that dog

I like the fact that you won't let them dictate your races to you. That's a personal victory in its own right ????

 

Just a correction, choosing not to go to races that openly welcome them back, is not a "stick it to the dopers" move. They couldnt care less, they couldn't care about cheating, why would they care about my morals when they never had their own.

 

It's a stick it to the race move. The only real leverage consumers have is their entry fees...

 

Different approaches to a problem, not one right and the other wrong... Just our own choices.

[PygaSchmyga]

Ya Burty , we should all look at our mistakes , and hopefully learn from them .

But DOPING is NEVER a mistake !!

It is a willing choice made by the athlete .

The ONLY time it is / was a mistake ( in their eyes) is after they have been caught .

Just like OSCAR, shem, it was a big mistake, accidentally shot 4 times!