Spark Posted September 1, 2014 Share An even worse excuse than contaminated meat. How much substance can get accidentally on the outside of gel capsules, get handled while filling with bicarb soda , and still has detectable amounts on it. bull**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted September 1, 2014 Share I actually believe Daryl. But whether I do or don't, the fact of the matter is that SAIDS do, and the 'powers that be' made a decision, and it's that he's clean and a balls-up was made, and that the very important hub detectives, lawyers, experts, doctors and sceptics can post till they're blue in the face about what they think happened, but they can stand on their heads, because nobody gives a continental what they think, nor does anybody owe them anything. Power words those, they do however think they own the pro's and pay their salaries and as a result of that the poor okes aren't allowed any private life either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubehunter Posted September 1, 2014 Share An even worse excuse than contaminated meat. How much substance can get accidentally on the outside of gel capsules, get handled while filling with bicarb soda , and still has detectable amounts on it. bull**** Yep, you're right, SAIDS do not have the capacity or the means to pick up traces, yes mere traces of the substance with their testing. This is all a conspiracy so that you could come out here today and wow us with your in depth knowledge of how not to read a thread and comment... Edited September 1, 2014 by Tubehunter Baaisikilist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baaisikilist Posted September 1, 2014 Share An even worse excuse than contaminated meat. How much substance can get accidentally on the outside of gel capsules, get handled while filling with bicarb soda , and still has detectable amounts on it. bull****Dunno, please tell us... Wyatt Earp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted September 1, 2014 Share An even worse excuse than contaminated meat. How much substance can get accidentally on the outside of gel capsules, get handled while filling with bicarb soda , and still has detectable amounts on it. bull**** Consider this, it takes one little swimmer to produce a hub judge.So according to scale, we are probably talking micro grams here. DJR and Baaisikilist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mats Posted September 1, 2014 Share An even worse excuse than contaminated meat. How much substance can get accidentally on the outside of gel capsules, get handled while filling with bicarb soda , and still has detectable amounts on it. bull**** Just a question: lets say I am allergic to nuts. How much nuts do I need to get in to get an allergic reaction... Not a lot. Ok so I am allergic to Cat hair, I don't even have to touch the cat I just need to go into a room where the cat has been to show a reaction. My guess the smallest quantity will show up in your bloods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted September 1, 2014 Share An even worse excuse than contaminated meat. How much substance can get accidentally on the outside of gel capsules, get handled while filling with bicarb soda , and still has detectable amounts on it. bull****I'll tell you. At least enough of the amount for the hearing to have concluded that they are satisfied, and at least enough for them to have revoked the ban with immediate effect. At least the amount that will need to stand up to UCI scrutiny if required. Seems enough to me, but I'm just a face value kinda fella. Baaisikilist and RockCoach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubehunter Posted September 1, 2014 Share An even worse excuse than contaminated meat. How much substance can get accidentally on the outside of gel capsules, get handled while filling with bicarb soda , and still has detectable amounts on it. bull**** So it doesn't feel like we're trolling your post, check out the official response posted 7 or so pages ago. (FYI - You're number 4 on the "How much substance..." plot since) SAIDS: “We’re Satisfied Impey Was Not At Fault” http://www.bicycling...ed-impey-fault/ “Under the Anti-Doping Rules, SAIDS is required to vigorously pursue all anti-doping rule violations within our jurisdiction. We did so and checked the veracity of Impey’s account to the fullest extent possible. We sought opinions from our own experts, which confirmed that cross-contamination was indeed possible in the manner proposed by Impey’s experts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baaisikilist Posted September 1, 2014 Share Since everyone has a theory, riddle me this super clever hub folk (perhaps you, notsobright Spark)... If when he went into the pharmacy the first time, there were no capsules available, did the pharmacist order in a fresh batch of capsules, or might he have 'found' and emptied out some capsules that contained some probenecid containing blend of ingredients...? It was said that the substance was transferred to the capsules from the pill tray, but could a larger quantity have been inside the capsules too...? I've not read anywhere that the pharmacist dispensed capsules of pure probenecid to the client/patient before Daryl. Daryl could easily have (and if the powder on the pill tray is how it got into his system, probably did) ingest/ed nanograms of multiple ingredients, of which only one was on the naughty list. The amount was probably so negligible. The way SAIDS works is to shoot 1st, ask questions later, sometimes, depending on which way the wind is blowing. They are so inconsistent in how they deal with things. Last year, my name was in the headlines in a flash, this year, when 2 okes who were suspected (or convicted...?) to have doped before Epic, there was no mentioning of any names in the press release. Their systems and procedures need attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted September 1, 2014 Share Since everyone has a theory, riddle me this super clever hub folk (perhaps you, notsobright Spark)... If when he went into the pharmacy the first time, there were no capsules available, did the pharmacist order in a fresh batch of capsules, or might he have 'found' and emptied out some capsules that contained some probenecid containing blend of ingredients...? It was said that the substance was transferred to the capsules from the pill tray, but could a larger quantity have been inside the capsules too...? I've not read anywhere that the pharmacist dispensed capsules of pure probenecid to the client/patient before Daryl. Daryl could easily have (and if the powder on the pill tray is how it got into his system, probably did) ingest/ed nanograms of multiple ingredients, of which only one was on the naughty list. The amount was probably so negligible. The way SAIDS works is to shoot 1st, ask questions later, sometimes, depending on which way the wind is blowing. They are so inconsistent in how they deal with things. Last year, my name was in the headlines in a flash, this year, when 2 okes who were suspected (or convicted...?) to have doped before Epic, there was no mentioning of any names in the press release. Their systems and procedures need attention. No......people must just stop doping then we won't need these systems and procedures to catch all these naughty people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted September 1, 2014 Share An even worse excuse than contaminated meat. How much substance can get accidentally on the outside of gel capsules, get handled while filling with bicarb soda , and still has detectable amounts on it. bull**** Covered between pages 1 and 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted September 1, 2014 Share Covered between pages 1 and 21. Scotty.Another Dr. Ruth comment from me.Sometimes people are so hell bent on wanting to believe themselves and see others fail that they will overlook something so insignificant . scotty, Bat and NotSoBigBen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baaisikilist Posted September 1, 2014 Share No......people must just stop doping then we won't need these systems and procedures to catch all these naughty peopleComfy there with your head buried in the sand...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassie Posted September 1, 2014 Share Consider this, it takes one little swimmer to produce a hub judge.So according to scale, we are probably talking micro grams here.Bwaha hahahah.... 10/10 for that one!! Coffee all over myself... Wyatt Earp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted September 1, 2014 Share Ok so I am allergic to Cat hair, I don't even have to touch the cat I just need to go into a room where the cat has been to show a reaction. Hello Ma'am We have something in common Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idiot Posted September 1, 2014 Share She also rides bikes Swiss.. .. Thats 2 things.. It's just getting better! SwissVan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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