Wolf Lyle Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 I have come to the conclusion that I need wider rims for my Trance, to help stop it trying to kill me, but I don't know how wide is enough. The standard S-CX2 rims have in internal size of 19mm, which have given trouble with Nobby Nics 2.25s as well as WTB Wierwolves 2.25s.I run 2.0b Front and 2.5b Rear pressure but I still get burps and sideways rolls. It looks like the widest reasonably priced (£30ish) rim I can find is from superstar and has a 25mm internal width. Will this be enough? (Also interested if anyone knows whether I can just rebuild onto existing wheelset?)Im now running Flow ex'x on my Trance. Solved those problems you mentioned. the bead on the flows hooks the tire bead far better than the stock rim. the extra with feels great. far less roll on the corners at low pressure (under 20psi )
Headshot Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Ya, Flows are the answer. Even if the new rim is lower profile, longer nipples will allow you to use the old spokes as I did on my rear wheel. No Tubes rims seem to hold tyres on better than many others and are easy to pump up tubeless. Also look at the tyres you are using - the softer the sidewall and the lower the pressure the more problems you will have.
Edge540 Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Sorry to go back to basics here... So a "wide" rim, should stop the tyre from rolling at lower pressures? And stop burping? Are these the reasons for going wide? More traction I imagine. Wide Lightenings are almost 30mm internal - that's a lot wider than the Arches and Flows... Anything I'm missing? I was going to ask the same thing. Wide Lightnings seem to have been left out of this discussion. On the face of it I would have thought they'd be a good option, light, strong, wide and reasonably priced or is there something else to consider?
Wolf Lyle Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 I was going to ask the same thing. Wide Lightnings seem to have been left out of this discussion. On the face of it I would have thought they'd be a good option, light, strong, wide and reasonably priced or is there something else to consider?I looked into wide lightning's. Seemed like a brilliant option. But after much research it seems they aren't so strong. It's so difficult to tell , bet they seem to dent very easily from stones flicking up etc. And the hub prawl engagement is slow. My concern was spending so much on a wheelset , I don't want to have to ride carefully in fear of breaking a rim. Flows are tried and tested. No stress at all.
Eddy Gordo Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Check with Bibi here on the hub, he has some wheels available
GrantRH Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 I looked into wide lightning's. Seemed like a brilliant option. But after much research it seems they aren't so strong. It's so difficult to tell , bet they seem to dent very easily from stones flicking up etc. And the hub prawl engagement is slow. My concern was spending so much on a wheelset , I don't want to have to ride carefully in fear of breaking a rim. Flows are tried and tested. No stress at all.The reviews I read about being soft related to the older American Classic sets. The new wide lightnings all get good reviews. I have a pair and very impressed.
nolipoli Posted December 21, 2014 Author Posted December 21, 2014 I ended up changing to a Reign that comes standard with 24mm internal width rims. Huge difference!I highly recommend that upgrade, with whatever brand you choose.
Pipsqueak Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Should I wait for those Pyga 30mm carbon rims, or just get a set of Flows? Big price diff I know...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Should I wait for those Pyga 30mm carbon rims, or just get a set of Flows? Big price diff I know...Flow EX are 25mm wide, but that 20% extra width does a wondrous amount, apparently. As long as they're saying 30mm internal width, that is.
Flowta Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Flow EX are 25mm wide, but that 20% extra width does a wondrous amount, apparently. As long as they're saying 30mm internal width, that is. Most brands will quote the external width, which in the case of the Flows is 29.1http://singletrackworld.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2012/06/Rim-Diagram-Flow-EX.jpg
Flowta Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 From this thread, so it's either +-25m or +-30mm https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/119246-post-your-pyga/page-81 Further clarity regarding the Carbon PYGA rims & wheelsets: Inner width is less 5mm on all the rims (25 - 30mm) Pyga TrailWide 650 Hookless bead @ +/- R5200 p/rim35mm wideERD - 551mm32 spoke400 grams per rim +-10 gramsPyga Marathon 650 Hookless bead - NOT AVAILABLE30mm wideERD - 562mm32 spoke375 grams per rim +-10 gramsPyga TrailWide29 Hookless bead @ +/- R5370 p/rim35mm wideERD - 589mm32 spoke428 grams per rim +-10 gramsPyga Marathon29 Hookless bead @ +/- R4900 p/rim30mm wideERD - 600mm32 spoke398 grams per rim +-10 grams For an idea on wheelset price thus far: PYGA 650b Trail Wide Wheelset @ +/- R15K The rest is still to be announced and all prices clarified.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Most brands will quote the external width, which in the case of the Flows is 29.1http://singletrackworld.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2012/06/Rim-Diagram-Flow-EX.jpgYeah I know... hence the q
Bizkit031 Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Should I wait for those Pyga 30mm carbon rims, or just get a set of Flows? Big price diff I know... Carbon gonna be lighter but damn that's a expensive weight loss.
Brett Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Is anyone riding Spank rims on their 27.5" bikes? I'm keen to try them, but they roughly the same price as Stan's. Should I just go for iit?
Barry Stuart Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Is anyone riding Spank rims on their 27.5" bikes? I'm keen to try them, but they roughly the same price as Stan's. Should I just go for iit?Better looking than Stans if that counts.
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