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[Tumbleweed]

How about a satirical badly edited cartoon of a gangrape?

Interesting example. There was a similarly heated debate here about Zapiro's cartoon depicting Zuma's rape of Lady Justice. If I recall correctly, those who found it insensitive were in the minority.

[Harryn]

I am often floored at the intolerance to a different point of view, exhibited by so many hubbers. This thread is a typical case in point. I guess one can always rely on emotion to cloud judgment.

 

James has simply pointed out that it is not the picture, per se, which is offensive and repugnant, but rather the grim truth which it represents. I think he is spot on.

 

Whether or not we are comfortable with the graphic or the prize money it earned for its creator, we need to respect freedom of expression. Whilst we can take cognizance of the galactic stupidity of 94.7 who commit an epic marketing fail in thinking that the graphic promotes either their brand or Jozi, the pic is what it is: a warning - get on the road, but know you risk getting taken out.

 

 

Like it or not it has generated debate about the hazards of road cycling, and of the parlous state of our roads in general; ergo, it raises safety awareness. To that end, in my view, it succeeds (irrespective of whether or not that was the intent).

[Kranswurm]

I am often floored at the intolerance to a different point of view, exhibited by so many hubbers. This thread is a typical case in point. I guess one can always rely on emotion to cloud judgment.

James has simply pointed out that it is not the picture, per se, which is offensive and repugnant, but rather the grim truth which it represents. I think he is spot on.

Whether or not we are comfortable with the graphic or the prize money it earned for its creator, we need to respect freedom of expression. Whilst we can take cognizance of the galactic stupidity of 94.7 who commit an epic marketing fail in thinking that the graphic promotes either their brand or Jozi, the pic is what it is: a warning - get on the road, but know you risk getting taken out.

Like it or not it has generated debate about the hazards of road cycling, and of the parlous state of our roads in general; ergo, it raises safety awareness. To that end, in my view, it succeeds (irrespective of whether or not that was the intent).

I agree with you fully

The responses on here are childish and small minded

[Nayr]

I am often floored at the intolerance to a different point of view, exhibited by so many hubbers. This thread is a typical case in point. I guess one can always rely on emotion to cloud judgment.

 

James has simply pointed out that it is not the picture, per se, which is offensive and repugnant, but rather the grim truth which it represents. I think he is spot on.

 

Whether or not we are comfortable with the graphic or the prize money it earned for its creator, we need to respect freedom of expression. Whilst we can take cognizance of the galactic stupidity of 94.7 who commit an epic marketing fail in thinking that the graphic promotes either their brand or Jozi, the pic is what it is: a warning - get on the road, but know you risk getting taken out.

 

 

Like it or not it has generated debate about the hazards of road cycling, and of the parlous state of our roads in general; ergo, it raises safety awareness. To that end, in my view, it succeeds (irrespective of whether or not that was the intent).

 

Wyatt, with the utmost respect and peace and love on a Sunday...you are completely missing my point, we are the same side here, no one said we don't have an issue with the image, i have a massive problem with the image and it's content, however I'm not slaying the artist for it... The artist has depicted something that hits home and the only reason it hits home is because of the factual content. I can completely understand the sensitivities, i'm not suggesting that anyone should not be sensitive about the content, it's extremely provoking and strikes a nerve in me as well.

 

I'm saying don't point your sensitivities in the wrong direction, be angry with the content, not the person. The image, as bad as it may be technically, could have been used to better a cause, So no, not condescending and or patronizing in anyway what-so-ever, why would i be? however i would gladly stand up and tell anyone to not be so narrow-minded and why they should possibly give an image like this a chance...it got people talking and just remember and I quote "Art is never meant to look nice, it is meant to make you feel something"

 

While there are other ways of raising awareness, this just happens to be one of them, whether it was intended or not...As to me defining the word satirical, people often associate the word (incorrectly) with humor.

 

I think Harryn ^^^ has possibly made the point far more concisely and eloquently than I could have...

[Mntboy]

Am black and a cyclist however I don't understand white humour sometimes. Whats funny about a tragedy (cyclist being knocked down) and a racist slur (taxi driver depicted as a dog).I don't condone how taxi drivers drive but at the same time us cyclists we are not blameless too.

If the racial connotations of this picture make it to the general black public and especially taxi drivers 94.7 as a station may have put cyclist's lives at serious risk.

The taxi drivers are already reckless now you give them a reason to bash us!!!!

I'm white and don't get the supposed humour in the image in question either. Like you I can clearly see how it divides even more people who need to be seeking common ground and finding ways to share the road peacefully with each other.

[Ryan's dad]

Am black and a cyclist however I don't understand white humour sometimes. Whats funny about a tragedy (cyclist being knocked down) and a racist slur (taxi driver depicted as a dog).I don't condone how taxi drivers drive but at the same time us cyclists we are not blameless too.

If the racial connotations of this picture make it to the general black public and especially taxi drivers 94.7 as a station may have put cyclist's lives at serious risk.

The taxi drivers are already reckless now you give them a reason to bash us!!!!

I would not call this white humour. If you read all the previous comments I think you will see that we are all in agreement that many of the depictions in the picture are offensive.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

I think the cartoon is quite representative of the artists "My 94.7 / JHB"

 

A place where:

 

Taxi drivers (not all black, btw) drove like dogs

Kids play in water filled potholes the size of swimming pools

Cyclists are taken out on a daily basis

Giraffes have to look out for low flying bridges

Passengers along for the ride (the woman in the taxi) just not having a good time at all.

 

It is highly satirical of the current state of our country. It's highlighting the things that are wrong with the city and to a larger extent the country.

 

To take offence from the cartoon itself is a bit silly. To take offence that that is the true state of the roads and take action to rectify it is the way we should be looking.

 

Btw. Cartoons aren't always supposed to be funny. Sometimes they are intended to be a depiction of the things that are wrong. You don't always have to try and find the funny side of it, nor is there always intent to put a humorous spin on them.

 

I look at this, and I get angry. Angry that cyclists are being killed. Angry that taxi drivers get away with driving like dogs. Angry that suburbia is being held ransom by gangs of thieving thugs, angry at the state of the roads and angry at the lack of foresight in transporting the giraffe and the pain that causes.

 

On a separate note, I'm sad at the general response to alternative viewpoints on this thread

[Kranswurm]

I'm white and don't get the supposed humour in the image in question either. Like you I can clearly see how it divides even more people who need to be seeking common ground and finding ways to share the road peacefully with each other.

Not sure where the humour is

It's a depiction of a sad state of affairs and arouses awareness and debate

[Wyatt Earp]

 

 

I'm saying don't point your sensitivities in the wrong direction, be angry with the content, not the person. 

 

 

That is what an uneducated person like myself refers to as patronising.

If you read my posts very carefully you will see that nowhere did I express anger towards the person who created this image, but my disgust (not anger) is towards the image itself.

So you would suggest that 94.7 removed it to "take the heat off" themselves ?

[carbon29er]

James has simply pointed out that it is not the picture, per se, which is offensive and repugnant, but rather the grim truth which it represents. I think he is spot on.

 

 

 

What is offensive is the glorification and promotion of intolerance (violence?) against cyclists, not that that the picture represents the grim truth.

 

I don't live in 94.7 catchment area but when last did the station host a love in with cyclists as opposed to a hate session with irate motorists calling in about some cyclists who happened to jump a stop street or hold them up by not riding in single file?

[SwissVan]

I am often floored at the intolerance to a different point of view, exhibited by so many hubbers. This thread is a typical case in point. I guess one can always rely on emotion to cloud judgment.

 

James has simply pointed out that it is not the picture, per se, which is offensive and repugnant, but rather the grim truth which it represents. I think he is spot on.

 

Whether or not we are comfortable with the graphic or the prize money it earned for its creator, we need to respect freedom of expression. Whilst we can take cognizance of the galactic stupidity of 94.7 who commit an epic marketing fail in thinking that the graphic promotes either their brand or Jozi, the pic is what it is: a warning - get on the road, but know you risk getting taken out.

 

 

Like it or not it has generated debate about the hazards of road cycling, and of the parlous state of our roads in general; ergo, it raises safety awareness. To that end, in my view, it succeeds (irrespective of whether or not that was the intent).

 

Well said

 

I agree with you fully

The responses on here are childish and small minded

 

Childish might be the wrong term, I think James got it right earlier where he said something about mountains and molehills.

[SwissVan]

Not sure where the humour is

It's a depiction of a sad state of affairs and arouses awareness and debate

 

well said, that's the crux imo

[Wayne Potgieter]

I see your fellas points.

 

I too am offended deeply by this image.

 

But if i think about it, i agree that it is a VERY DISTURBING example of how things are going in JOburg,

 

BUT. I do not think this shoul be worthy of a "upliftment" prize.

 

I was under the impression that this competition was to grow and encourage Joburgers to unite. I feel this is driving a wedge deeper.

[Wyatt Earp]

I see your fellas points.

 

I too am offended deeply by this image.

 

But if i think about it, i agree that it is a VERY DISTURBING example of how things are going in JOburg,

 

BUT. I do not think this shoul be worthy of a "upliftment" prize.

 

I was under the impression that this competition was to grow and encourage Joburgers to unite. I feel this is driving a wedge deeper.

 

 

It's amazes me what the Pretoria incident of the giraffes has to do with Jozi.

The white chick to me looks like she is trying to escape the clutches of rape.

The taxi driver being depicted as a dog, disturbing to say the least and it's even more offensive that some people who have been waving the so called "liberal flag" have no issue with that, and then call s everyone else childish.

 

This is not art, merely an attempt at getting ones clutches on R 94.7 k.

If it was art, it would be like any art form open to interperation .

A cyclists sitting on the ground bandaged up and paramedics around him would have neem a better way to highlight the seriousness of the issue.

 

Lastly it's not a cartoon, just a poorly edit piece of crap.

[Wyatt Earp]

Having looked further at the pic, beyond the cyclist being run over.

 

Woman screaming in taxi, in a city where violence against women and hijacking are rife.

 

Taxi driver displayed as a black dog. No other black people in the picture.

 

The world is about to become quite complex for the Breakfast Express. 

This guy , he nailed it.

[Mntboy]

Not sure where the humour is

It's a depiction of a sad state of affairs and arouses awareness and debate

Not sure this was meant to be funny at all. Agree that this has caused debate but not awareness re cyclists safety in my opinion.

 

Edit: grammar