Littering and PRO's

[tombeej]

Not condoning it..but a gel is way worse than a tube...a tube will bee picked up by a local and repaired and reused so if you going to do that then leave it on the side off the road rather...a gel on the other hand no one wants and is a threat to animals

Agreed. If you don't keep your road tubes after a flat (I don't - I treat tubes as consumables) then just leave them on the road side and they'll be snapped up by someone in no time. I often do repeats of the M19 climb up to Pinetown on a weekend morning, and more than once I've had to repair a flat and by the time I've come round again on my next repeat that tube has already been taken.

 

Gel packets stay in my pockets, banana peels into the bushes, and road tubes stay on the side of the road.

[Fly2High]

Have been following this thread and : "Litter is something that is left behind that was not there before. "  We as a  cycling community find any excuse for our actions, "Ok, to leave a tube, somebody will use it, Ok to drop a peel, apple, nuts etc, it will decay, ok to leave .... and the list is endless." when will we wake up and realise , the only "thing" we should leave is our tyre prints, the rest must go home with us.   No excuses, do the right thing and stop finding an excuse, any excuse, for doing the wrong stuff.  As this is a rant 'n rave forum. I am gatvol of hearing the excuses for doing "stuff / things"  that are wrong, immoral and unethical. 

[Guest Smimby]

Rourke didn't spit that wrapper piece. Watched the footage today and it's still clearly attached to the rest of the sachet when he starts to suck on it.

So what did he spit out?

 

A few people here saw it, I recoded it and could clearly see him biting and spitting it out.

 

Maybe a piece was still attached but bottom line he spat out a piece of plastic

[Guest Smimby]

Agreed. If you don't keep your road tubes after a flat (I don't - I treat tubes as consumables) then just leave them on the road side and they'll be snapped up by someone in no time. I often do repeats of the M19 climb up to Pinetown on a weekend morning, and more than once I've had to repair a flat and by the time I've come round again on my next repeat that tube has already been taken.

 

Gel packets stay in my pockets, banana peels into the bushes, and road tubes stay on the side of the road.

You are still littering. Who says someone picked it up use it? Maybe it is people like me who will stop pick up the tube and discard it in the bin.

 

Keep your tube and out it on top your bin on bin day. Then it will get used or discarded. But at the moment you are just looking for an excuse for your littering.

[Tumbleweed]

What's that old saying? Only take photos and only leave footprints.

[tombeej]

Have been following this thread and : "Litter is something that is left behind that was not there before. "  We as a  cycling community find any excuse for our actions, "Ok, to leave a tube, somebody will use it, Ok to drop a peel, apple, nuts etc, it will decay, ok to leave .... and the list is endless." when will we wake up and realise , the only "thing" we should leave is our tyre prints, the rest must go home with us.   No excuses, do the right thing and stop finding an excuse, any excuse, for doing the wrong stuff.  As this is a rant 'n rave forum. I am gatvol of hearing the excuses for doing "stuff / things"  that are wrong, immoral and unethical. 

 

If this rant is possibly aimed in my direction, here's my response to you.

 

Where I come from, we find putting vegetable/plant matter into the bin to be 'wrong'. We use it for compost. Because we grow our own organic vegetables at home and we believe that sending plant material to a land fill site only for lazy people or people who have no family policy about recycling. Same with our separate bins at home for plastic and tins. We recycle.

 

Secondly, I was very specific about road tubes. I leave them in plain sight because I know the locals will take it away to be recycled for their own needs. Same with the second hand cycling kit and equipment I donate, or I give to my gardener because he's also a cyclist.

 

I come from a family of conservation activists. Some of us have been game rangers in our past lives, active sponsors of WWF, while I have a step daughter who has gone as far as becoming a Greenpeace activist. While other self important keyboard jockeys like to make a lot of noise about 'saving the environment' but never get off their arses to do anything about it, on weekends you might find me swimming out to the drum lines off the KZN south coast to cut the meat off the giant hooks that are aimed at killing sharks, or doing volunteer work at the Isimangaliso park in Zululand. A typical example of a holiday for me at varsity was being at our farm in the Timbavati during the drought of '94 loading hay bales all day onto the back of bakkies to try and save the starving animals.

 

Be very careful of making sweeping self-righteous assumptions about people. Because if I did the same to you, I might say something like, "you must be a real fatty to leave tyre prints behind on a tar road, or is that just the weight of the giant chip on your shoulder weighing you down?"

 

But then again, since I'm not one of those types, I wouldn't say something like that to you, would I....?

[Mojoman]

without even reading page 2...

I disagree completely. go generalize somewhere else, aint nobody got time fo dat.

 

this. No excuse for littering

 

Disagree. Stop with your pathetic stereotypes and generalizing peop

PM me and come for a ride around Magalies with me and I will show you how different people from different backgrounds dump.

[rudi-h]

If this rant is possibly aimed in my direction, here's my response to you.

 

Where I come from, we find putting vegetable/plant matter into the bin to be 'wrong'. We use it for compost. Because we grow our own organic vegetables at home and we believe that sending plant material to a land fill site only for lazy people or people who have no family policy about recycling. Same with our separate bins at home for plastic and tins. We recycle.

 

Secondly, I was very specific about road tubes. I leave them in plain sight because I know the locals will take it away to be recycled for their own needs. Same with the second hand cycling kit and equipment I donate, or I give to my gardener because he's also a cyclist.

 

I come from a family of conservation activists. Some of us have been game rangers in our past lives, active sponsors of WWF, while I have a step daughter who has gone as far as becoming a Greenpeace activist. While other self important keyboard jockeys like to make a lot of noise about 'saving the environment' but never get off their arses to do anything about it, on weekends you might find me swimming out to the drum lines off the KZN south coast to cut the meat off the giant hooks that are aimed at killing sharks, or doing volunteer work at the Isimangaliso park in Zululand. A typical example of a holiday for me at varsity was being at our farm in the Timbavati during the drought of '94 loading hay bales all day onto the back of bakkies to try and save the starving animals.

 

Be very careful of making sweeping self-righteous assumptions about people. Because if I did the same to you, I might say something like, "you must be a real fatty to leave tyre prints behind on a tar road, or is that just the weight of the giant chip on your shoulder weighing you down?"

 

But then again, since I'm not one of those types, I wouldn't say something like that to you, would I....?

 

it's still better to take your tube home with you...  somebody may pick it up 4/5 times, but there's no guarantee.  only guarantee is if you take it home and a) recycle it or b) actively give it to someone who might find a use for it.

[Wez-O]

Have been following this thread and : "Litter is something that is left behind that was not there before. "  We as a  cycling community find any excuse for our actions, "Ok, to leave a tube, somebody will use it, Ok to drop a peel, apple, nuts etc, it will decay, ok to leave .... and the list is endless." when will we wake up and realise , the only "thing" we should leave is our tyre prints, the rest must go home with us.   No excuses, do the right thing and stop finding an excuse, any excuse, for doing the wrong stuff.  As this is a rant 'n rave forum. I am gatvol of hearing the excuses for doing "stuff / things"  that are wrong, immoral and unethical. 

What is someone needs to "drop off Mugabe" in the bushes during a race... 

[tombeej]

it's still better to take your tube home with you...  somebody may pick it up 4/5 times, but there's no guarantee.  only guarantee is if you take it home and a) recycle it or b) actively give it to someone who might find a use for it.

 

OK no problem, will do that going forward. Cool?

[Patchelicious]

OK no problem, will do that going forward. Cool?

Nice one! So much better to be proactive than to react negatively to posts!

[Long Wheel Base]

What is someone needs to "drop off Mugabe" in the bushes during a race... 

Hope you've got TP with and stash it in your pocket?

[Wez-O]

Hope you've got TP with and stash it in your pocket?

I once read a story about Jan Bakelants at the Tour de France, he was in the breakaway and had to head to the call of nature... So he removed his cap from under his helmet, did the job in the cap and tossed it into the bushes...

 

Sadly the breakaway got caught (as I'm sure was the Frenchman who found an authentic RadioShack cap in the bushes...).

[Stretch]

it's still better to take your tube home with you...  somebody may pick it up 4/5 times, but there's no guarantee.  only guarantee is if you take it home and a) recycle it or b) actively give it to someone who might find a use for it.

 

ok be honest...how many times out of ten do you stick it in your rubbish and add to the landfill?

 

Also remember location..here in KZN, we ride in and around the rural population - (not peri-urban, but rural), everything is re-used over and over till it is dead. Context is important.

 

And finally, The average persons consumerist approach to life is doing WAY more damage throwing away repairable electronics, mercury based bulbs and general recyclable goods all onto the landfill than leaving a tube on the side of the road that will be picked up and re-used 4 times out of 5

[V12man]

 

Sadly the breakaway got caught (as I'm sure was the Frenchman who found an authentic RadioShit cap in the bushes...).

Fixed it for you...

 

Hard enough to do a #1 when riding along, let alone #2 - boy must have serious skills ot practice that a lot.....

[Guest Karma]

it's scary how some try their best to justify littering.