Velouria Posted August 5, 2016 Share Its suppose to be brutal. You are suppose to dread your FTP ride...right up until 19:55min into the test when you know you have crushed it and you can mentally relax for 6 weeks. My eyes usually sweat a little bit and you get comfortable with the taste of iron in your mouth around the 12 minute mark.I've done 24hr races that have felt shorter than a 20 minute FTP test! Such a dark and lonely ride of pain and misery! pe3nguin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pe3nguin Posted August 5, 2016 Share There is something primal about a 20min FTP test. If you ignore numerical comparison, it is the great equalizer. Everyone is a ******* shell of a human afterwards. Beauty in brutality. Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted August 5, 2016 Share Will do mine again next week, Have been riding and training OKish for a few weeks so will see then how the numbers are affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saudiq Posted August 5, 2016 Share That looks like That looks like the Carmichael Field Test. I think the 20 min test is way more accurateFor the 2 previous weeks I did training session which was a total of 30 mins.3min X 10 sets which was 1 min at 390 watts and 2 mins at 280 watts. I then did a 20 min FTP test on past Monday and did 348 watts and even though it hurt it was sustainable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saudiq Posted August 5, 2016 Share So in a nutshell. Coach is a must?Any recommendations in Cape Town? No V02 test etc done to date, but based on current progression believe I have a small tiny little bit of natural talent. Currently sitting mid 4wpkg( +-14% BF) , and achieved that just under 2 years by just riding bike, nothing really structured , but would like to see how deep this rabbit hole goes. Would doing a V02 test be recommended? Coach is quite important. I did lots of self coaching last year, became a slave to the numbers and didn't notice over training symptoms until it was too late. New coach uses a protocol that quite different to most books I've read, but I'm loving my bike at the moment and my latest FTP test result of 348 watts is just 4 watts off my FTP personal best (which was after months of solid training) Americo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whunter Posted August 5, 2016 Share Coach is quite important. I did lots of self coaching last year, became a slave to the numbers and didn't notice over training symptoms until it was too late. New coach uses a protocol that quite different to most books I've read, but I'm loving my bike at the moment and my latest FTP test result of 348 watts is just 4 watts off my FTP personal best (which was after months of solid training)So who's your coach ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saudiq Posted August 11, 2016 Share So who's your coach ????????Demitri Mamacos. PM me if you'd like his details. He used to work at bridge cycles but he's on his own now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saudiq Posted August 11, 2016 Share This question has probably been answered somewhere in this topic, but I'd like to know, do you guys use Zero or Non-zero power averages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted August 13, 2016 Share Have convinced a few club mates that a structured training plan CAN yield improvements. This morning's FTP test midway through the strength training plan gave improvements from 5% (mine) up to 11-20% for the guys at the lower levels. New motivation for them to maintain and improve further. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted August 13, 2016 Share Did some lekka sweet spot training this week as I'm ramping up towards Spring Felt good and really made me sleep deep 3 x 30 min @ 0.9 IF Remember... Getting FTP result is one thingCrying behind your sunnies as you force those pedals and training all the zones is another matter ???????? Edited August 13, 2016 by 'Dale Patchelicious and Frosty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted August 13, 2016 Share For the 2 previous weeks I did training session which was a total of 30 mins.3min X 10 sets which was 1 min at 390 watts and 2 mins at 280 watts. I then did a 20 min FTP test on past Monday and did 348 watts and even though it hurt it was sustainableSo your FTP is 330W then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted August 13, 2016 Share Did some lekka sweet spot training this week as I'm ramping up towards Spring Felt good and really made me sleep deep 3 x 30 min @ 0.9 IF Remember... Getting FTP result is one thingCrying behind your sunnies as you force those pedals and training all the zones is another matter ????????90mins at IF of 0,9 in 1 ride sounds ****** sore! Frosty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted August 13, 2016 Share 90mins at IF of 0,9 in 1 ride sounds ****** sore!Tell me about it, Patch ???????????? Edited August 13, 2016 by 'Dale Frosty and Patchelicious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted August 13, 2016 Share How crazy and/or tough are you? #thekitchensink http://positiveperformancecoaching.com/2013/03/02/kitchen-sink-workouts/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted August 13, 2016 Share #thekitchensink When you analyze your power file after this workout, the first thing you should look for is your training stress score. Did you score over 280 TSS? If not, you didn’t go long enough. If you’re closer to the 300-320 TSS range, announce it on Facebook and I’ll “like” it. In all seriousness, the goal is to create some big stress, so a solid TSS will confirm that. The second thing to look at is your normalized power for the last 45 minutes. This will give you another confirmation of your endurance. If you were struggling way below your sweet spot and had nothing left, you know where you need to spend some more time. If you were solidly in your sweet spot, mission accomplished. From Hunter Allen Power Blog Frosty and Patchelicious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted August 13, 2016 Share Monday's workout (a Hunter Allen training plan) is a bit of a "I can't wait for Tuesday" kind of workout. Only 80 minutes worth of effort, but...Warm up for 15-20 mins in Z2;3x 5 mins in Z4 followed by 5 mins easy pedalling before the next killer;6x 2 mins at 118% of FTP (Z6) with 4 minutes in between each interval.It's not so much the workout that is intimidating, but rather the pre-workout comments:Set your power meter so you can see the average mode in "interval" mode.This will allow you to also review each interval after it is completed, so you can have a goal for the next one, or when to stop.STOP THE INTERVALS if your efforts fall below 118% of FTP. <--- it's this bit that I'm not looking forward to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now