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I have a Anthem Advance Carbon, only issue I have is the lack of a rear remote lockout. This became a big issue for me the faster I got because I only have so many fingers I can loose trying to flip the switch down there. A Fox remote shock is 8k and they dont want you to put a Rock Shox in, there is no other solution but to either pay 8k or tie a piece of string to the shock. Camper rear shock might work better because of where the shock is and how you can work it.

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Thanks Nico, seen that ad but I'm looking for a 29er. Been told that's the way to go.

 

Appreciate all the advice everyone.

A few weeks ago I stepped out of a store in Berkley. I was just browsing but the prices were staggeringly low compared to home so I was tempted.

I asked why so few 29ers on the floor and he chuckled and said "only guys looking for those now are xc racers and people who are just getting into the game. "

 

I was surprised because the USA is supposed to be 29 territory. Nope he said, trail bikes are where the sales are. They sell more 650b giants than 29ers and they even have requests for high end hardtails in 650b.

 

He said, when you see Cannondale and specialized getting into 650b trail bikes the way they are then it's a serious matter.

They still sell 29ers but it's 1:2. I think sa is still hung up on 29 ers but we sell less bikes in a year than giant produces in a month (or thereabouts).

 

Don't get too hung up on the wheel size. If the info given is correct then surely you'd rather want to buy the best bike for you rather than limit yourself to a wheelsize?

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Honestly can't tell you, but when I bought my Camber in mid 2014, the Comp Carbon was retailing for a tad over R30k. 

 

If the price you got is right, then there has been a massive price increase. 

 

For your budget, there are a hell of a lot of bikes to consider. Also look at bikes from Silverback, Pyga, On-One and so on. The Spez is a fantastic bike, but you've got a nice budget to play around with, so take your time and and don't rush into a purchase. 

2014 camber comp carbon was ZAR40k when I bought

2015 was ZAR44k, I think

2016 will be a HELLUVA lot more...

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2014 camber comp carbon was ZAR40k when I bought

2015 was ZAR44k, I think

2016 will be a HELLUVA lot more...

2016 Carbon Comp = R55K got price today

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I think if you are going to go for one of the 29ers mentioned origionally I'd be more tempted to go for the Anthem. Mainly because of the specs.

 

FOX Factory vs Evolution is a no brainer. They are miles apart. If you want 120mm up front then can get quite a lot more $$ for the Factory.

 

The Anthem is full XT. Totally worth it.

 

And slap a dropper on whichever one you decide.

 

Or get a Trance

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I agree with mjacres, the 2015 Anthem Spec is great for the price. The frame is stiff, drive train is bulletproof and the suspension is fantastic. Its a no brainer.

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Hi,

 

I am fairly new to biking, and, after a lot of research, I think I've narrowed my choices to the Giant Anthem Advanced 29er (R41k - 2015 model) or the Spez Camber Comp Carbon 29er (R41k - 2015 model) i.e. both are the same price.

 

I have also been quoted R47k for the Spez Epic Comp Carbon 29er. 

 

I'd be interested to hear from the members which bike they feel offers better rideability and value for money.

 

After reading numerous posts, I know that a lot has to do with personal preference so I plan on riding both, if possible, before purchase.

 

Cheerio.

 

it depends on your goals.  if you just want to ride your bike on weekends on smooth trails / dirt roads, get the bike that you like most.  I call that category A

 

If you look at a danny mckaskill or chris akrigg video thinking "Damn that's awesome, wish I could do that!", then you are in category B.

 

Category B means you need to get something with a slack geometry.  Camber is okay, but preferrably a stumpy, trance or something 130mm+.  Its almost impossible to learn to ride a bike properly with the forward geometry of a marathon bike.  Also, go for a few lessons to learn how to bunny hop etc. properly (with flats) when you start out.  That little skill by itself will mean that within the first few months you will ride circles around some of the seasoned racers when the going gets rough.

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2016 Carbon Comp = R55K got price today

That is crazy. I would never even think about that, when there is a S- Works Stumpjumper fsr in the classifieds for R45k. Absolutely mint condition.

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I think if you are going to go for one of the 29ers mentioned origionally I'd be more tempted to go for the Anthem. Mainly because of the specs.

 

FOX Factory vs Evolution is a no brainer. They are miles apart. If you want 120mm up front then can get quite a lot more $$ for the Factory.

 

The Anthem is full XT. Totally worth it.

 

And slap a dropper on whichever one you decide.

 

Or get a Trance

 

How Spez can spec EVO level suspension for that price is just a joke.

 

That fact alone will make me choose the Anthem if it was me. And Deore brakes, damn those brakes come on R7000 HT 29ers ...

 

Seems like one pays a bit for the badge ... :ph34r: j/k

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2014 camber comp carbon was ZAR40k when I bought

2015 was ZAR44k, I think

2016 will be a HELLUVA lot more...

 

 

2016 Carbon Comp = R55K got price today

 

That is fuckin nuts. Seems that all the R&D costs that went into Spez's "Trail Chassis" has been passed straight onto the consumer. The weak Rand also isn't helping. 

 

Does anyone have a spec list for the Comp Carbon?

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That is fuckin nuts. Seems that all the R&D costs that went into Spez's "Trail Chassis" has been passed straight onto the consumer. The weak Rand also isn't helping. 

 

Does anyone have a spec list for the Comp Carbon?

 

Taken from http://www.specialized.com/za/en/bikes/mountain/camber/camber-comp-carbon-29#specs

 

FRAME
FACT 9m carbon front triangle, 29" geometry, FACT IS construction, M5 alloy rear triangle, tapered headtube, carbon PF30 BB, full internal cable routing, 142mm dropouts, sealed cartridge bearing pivots, replaceable derailleur hanger, 110mm travel
 
REAR SHOCK
Custom FOX Float CTD Evolution w/ AUTOSAG, air spring, lockout, rebound adjust, 197x48mm
 
FORK
FOX Float CTD Evolution 29, air spring, tapered steerer, Climb, Trail, Descend settings and rebound adjust, 15mm thru-axle, 110mm travel
 
HEADSET
1-1/8 and 1-1/2" threadless, Hella Flush style upper with 1-1/2" lower, cartridge bearings
 
STEM
Specialized XC, 3D forged alloy, 4-bolt, 6-degree rise
 
HANDLEBARS
Specialized XC, mini rise, 6000 butted alloy, 8-degree backsweep, 6-degree upsweep, 10mm rise, 31.8mm
 
GRIPS
Specialized Sip Grip, light lock-on, half-waffle, S/M: regular thickness, Others: XL
 
FRONT BRAKE
Shimano Deore BR-M506, hydraulic disc, dual piston, resin pads, S/M: 180mm rotor, Others: 200mm
 
REAR BRAKE
Shimano Deore BR-M506, hydraulic disc, dual piston, resin pads, S/M: 160mm rotor, Others: 180mm
 
BRAKE LEVERS
Shimano Deore BL-M506, hydraulic, alloy lever
 
FRONT DERAILLEUR
SRAM X7, 10-speed, S3 direct mount for DMD, bottom pull
 
REAR DERAILLEUR
Shimano XT Shadow Plus, 10-speed, SGS long cage
 
SHIFT LEVERS
Shimano SLX, 10-speed, trigger
 
CASSETTE
SRAM PG 1030, 10-speed, 11-36
 
CHAIN
SRAM PC 1031, 10-speed, w/ PowerLink, nickel finish
 
CRANKSET
Custom SRAM S-1250, 7050 alloy arms, 10-speed AM double, PF30 spindle, 36/22, 104/64mm BCD spider
 
BOTTOM BRACKET
SRAM, PF30, OS press-in bearings, sealed cartridge
 
PEDALS
Resin test ride, w/ toe clips, CEN std.
 
RIMS
Roval 29, alloy, 21mm inner width, 32h
 
FRONT HUB
Specialized Hi Lo disc, sealed cartridge bearings, 15mm thru-axle, 32h
 
REAR HUB
Specialized Hi Lo disc, 4 sealed cartridge bearings, 12mm thru-axle, 32h
 
SPOKES
DT Swiss Industry, stainless
 
FRONT TIRE
Specialized Ground Control, 60TPI, 2Bliss Ready, folding bead, 29x2.3"
 
REAR TIRE
Specialized Ground Control, 60TPI, 2Bliss Ready, folding bead, 29x2.1"
 
SADDLE
Body Geometry Henge Comp, hollow Cr-Mo rails, 143mm
 
SEATPOST
Specialized alloy, single bolt, 30.9mm
 
SEAT BINDER
Specialized 7050 alloy, single bolt, 34.9mm
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Taken from http://www.specialized.com/za/en/bikes/mountain/camber/camber-comp-carbon-29#specs

 

FRAME
FACT 9m carbon front triangle, 29" geometry, FACT IS construction, M5 alloy rear triangle, tapered headtube, carbon PF30 BB, full internal cable routing, 142mm dropouts, sealed cartridge bearing pivots, replaceable derailleur hanger, 110mm travel
 
REAR SHOCK
Custom FOX Float CTD Evolution w/ AUTOSAG, air spring, lockout, rebound adjust, 197x48mm
 
FORK
FOX Float CTD Evolution 29, air spring, tapered steerer, Climb, Trail, Descend settings and rebound adjust, 15mm thru-axle, 110mm travel
 
HEADSET
1-1/8 and 1-1/2" threadless, Hella Flush style upper with 1-1/2" lower, cartridge bearings
 
STEM
Specialized XC, 3D forged alloy, 4-bolt, 6-degree rise
 
HANDLEBARS
Specialized XC, mini rise, 6000 butted alloy, 8-degree backsweep, 6-degree upsweep, 10mm rise, 31.8mm
 
GRIPS
Specialized Sip Grip, light lock-on, half-waffle, S/M: regular thickness, Others: XL
 
FRONT BRAKE
Shimano Deore BR-M506, hydraulic disc, dual piston, resin pads, S/M: 180mm rotor, Others: 200mm
 
REAR BRAKE
Shimano Deore BR-M506, hydraulic disc, dual piston, resin pads, S/M: 160mm rotor, Others: 180mm
 
BRAKE LEVERS
Shimano Deore BL-M506, hydraulic, alloy lever
 
FRONT DERAILLEUR
SRAM X7, 10-speed, S3 direct mount for DMD, bottom pull
 
REAR DERAILLEUR
Shimano XT Shadow Plus, 10-speed, SGS long cage
 
SHIFT LEVERS
Shimano SLX, 10-speed, trigger
 
CASSETTE
SRAM PG 1030, 10-speed, 11-36
 
CHAIN
SRAM PC 1031, 10-speed, w/ PowerLink, nickel finish
 
CRANKSET
Custom SRAM S-1250, 7050 alloy arms, 10-speed AM double, PF30 spindle, 36/22, 104/64mm BCD spider
 
BOTTOM BRACKET
SRAM, PF30, OS press-in bearings, sealed cartridge
 
PEDALS
Resin test ride, w/ toe clips, CEN std.
 
RIMS
Roval 29, alloy, 21mm inner width, 32h
 
FRONT HUB
Specialized Hi Lo disc, sealed cartridge bearings, 15mm thru-axle, 32h
 
REAR HUB
Specialized Hi Lo disc, 4 sealed cartridge bearings, 12mm thru-axle, 32h
 
SPOKES
DT Swiss Industry, stainless
 
FRONT TIRE
Specialized Ground Control, 60TPI, 2Bliss Ready, folding bead, 29x2.3"
 
REAR TIRE
Specialized Ground Control, 60TPI, 2Bliss Ready, folding bead, 29x2.1"
 
SADDLE
Body Geometry Henge Comp, hollow Cr-Mo rails, 143mm
 
SEATPOST
Specialized alloy, single bolt, 30.9mm
 
SEAT BINDER
Specialized 7050 alloy, single bolt, 34.9mm

 

 

That is the 2015 model. The 2016 model has a RS Revelation fork and SRAM GX 1X11 transmission. 

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