tubed Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 An interesting read. But surely if the pros do it..... Would love to hear the view of some of the local medical buffs like Dr Swart. To quote: “All we have now is clinicians giving us their own personal impressions as opposed to any systematic study,” says Dr. Peter Tiidus, dean of applied health sciences at Canada’s Brock University.Tiidus’ work on muscle damage and repair has included research into massage. In one controlled 12-week study, his team tested the effects of weekly massage on female recreational runners training for a 10-kilometer race, measuring claimed benefits like improved performance and perceived pain.“Much to our surprise and disappointment, we saw absolutely no difference,” Tiidus says. “They reported the same amount of soreness, the same amount of pain, the same amount of beneficial effects of training adaptations.”Read more at http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/10/training-center/science-says-massage-may-not-be-worth-the-expense_387785#Gteetocl05dXc6GQ.99
BarHugger Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Did they also measure the psychological effect? So mechanical manipulation of muscle tissue has no effect......mmmmm......what about all the other similar methods?
raptor-22 Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Academics are incentivised to publish papers. These papers don't have to be right, they just have to be published. More papers published = more funding There's a lot of dodgy science as a result
DIPSLICK Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Science can say what it wants,,,my body says they are talking out their butt holes
tubed Posted October 20, 2015 Author Posted October 20, 2015 The placebo effect definitely works, all those tired legs each year climbing suikerbossie after a lovely first year physio lass has rubbed them for 30 seconds at the bottom of the hill just proves that. Seriously though, I would love to know if there are other studies to prove the actual benefits of massage
EmptyB Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 A lovely first year physio can definitely massage my rabbit....
SwissVan Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Whatever...i don't believe a massage will make a big improvement in performance, however if you have issues i.e. tight / knotted muscle somewhere then yes it can help to make the issues feel better. A good massage is still lekka relaxing and feel good therapy
Baracuda Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 "Tested on a group training for a recreational 10km run" Rather test it in a Tour de France team - one team massages and ices, the other does not at all. See what happens over 3 weeks. Or stop test rugby teams massaging and icing after consecutive games in the World Cup and see what happens.
NotSoBigBen Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Whatever...i don't believe a massage will make a big improvement in performance, however if you have issues i.e. tight / knotted muscle somewhere then yes it can help to make the issues feel better. A good massage is still lekka relaxing and feel good therapy Makes me think of my doctor's comment when I went to physio for an achilles tendon injury ... 'if you have physio it'll take 4 weeks or more to heal, if you don't it will take a month or more .... but you'll feel better about it'
rouxtjie Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Go for the champagne package...the one with a happy ending. So how fresh you feel the next day and tell me it doesnt work Bunch of noob scientists
scotty Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Tried it and experienced the same results as the recreational runners mentioned in the article.
raptor-22 Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Massage isn't going to do squat for a major injury. It will aid in maintaining flexibility and help reduce scar tissue formation and this most doctors acknowledge. It's not allowing faster healing just assisting the process. For more rapid healing you need more oxygen
rouxtjie Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Massage isn't going to do squat for a major injury. It will aid in maintaining flexibility and help reduce scar tissue formation and this most doctors acknowledge. It's not allowing faster healing just assisting the process.For more rapid healing you need more oxygensorted http://www.slxs.co.za/2009/01/20/usn-oxygen-h2o-must-be-spiced-h20/
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