patches Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 The bad... The other day a traffic light was out in my area. The maintenance crew was on scene immediately fixing it, but the problem came in with the other motorists... They had no idea how to treat the intersection. Luckily it's not a busy area, so only a little confusion reigned. Traffic light obviously don't go down often enough for Kiwi motorists to practice 4-way stops Fortunately for me, I spent many years tackling the frequent occurrence of faulty traffic lights and even honed my skills on expert-level intersections like the William Nicol offramp and Grosvenor Crossing intern 1
intern Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 The bad... The other day a traffic light was out in my area. The maintenance crew was on scene immediately fixing it, but the problem came in with the other motorists... They had no idea how to treat the intersection. Luckily it's not a busy area, so only a little confusion reigned. Traffic light obviously don't go down often enough for Kiwi motorists to practice 4-way stops Fortunately for me, I spent many years tackling the frequent occurrence of faulty traffic lights and even honed my skills on expert-level intersections like the William Nicol offramp and Grosvenor Crossing I've experienced this too - absolute chaos!
patham Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 The bad... The other day a traffic light was out in my area. The maintenance crew was on scene immediately fixing it, but the problem came in with the other motorists... They had no idea how to treat the intersection. Luckily it's not a busy area, so only a little confusion reigned. Traffic light obviously don't go down often enough for Kiwi motorists to practice 4-way stops Fortunately for me, I spent many years tackling the frequent occurrence of faulty traffic lights and even honed my skills on expert-level intersections like the William Nicol offramp and Grosvenor Crossing Goes for Aus too. A traffic light goes down and its all pear shaped. Well what generally happens is "might is right". If it's an intersection with say 2 lanes crossing a road with 3 lanes - the drivers on the larger road just will not stop to let the people in from the side street. The issue is in Aus is that 4-way stops are not defined in the various highway codes, so they are not taught how to do them. Wayne Potgieter 1
Wayne Potgieter Posted March 13, 2020 Author Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) When I just did my motorbike learners, I was taught that a out of action traffic light in Nz is rated as a traffic circle where you are to give way to people on your right. Because Nz has very few 4 way stops they don’t use the 4 way stop rule. Edit: so the give way rules apply. https://www.aa.co.nz/cars/ask-an-expert/motoring-rules-and-regulations/show/11266/ Edited March 13, 2020 by Wayne Potgieter intern 1
patches Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 When I just did my motorbike learners, I was taught that a out of action traffic light in Nz is rated as a traffic circle where you are to give way to people on your right. Because Nz has very few 4 way stops they don’t use the 4 way stop rule. Edit: so the give way rules apply. https://www.aa.co.nz/cars/ask-an-expert/motoring-rules-and-regulations/show/11266/ hahaha, shows how much studying I did for my motorcycle learners intern and Wayne Potgieter 2
intern Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 Thanks Wayne, now we know why we were perplexed! Wayne Potgieter 1
Wayne Potgieter Posted March 15, 2020 Author Posted March 15, 2020 hahaha, shows how much studying I did for my motorcycle learners Thanks Wayne, now we know why we were perplexed!Bloody immigrants
GrahamS2 Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 Goes for Aus too. A traffic light goes down and its all pear shaped. Well what generally happens is "might is right". If it's an intersection with say 2 lanes crossing a road with 3 lanes - the drivers on the larger road just will not stop to let the people in from the side street. The issue is in Aus is that 4-way stops are not defined in the various highway codes, so they are not taught how to do them.My first experience of this was fairly diabolical. I assumed the traffic light was a 4 way stop, and was nearly t-boned by some clown in a massive ute. I quickly learnt how it actually works.
patches Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) The good, bad & ugly all in 1... The recent travel conditions (14 day self isolation) announced in both Australia and New Zealand. I agree that we need to assist in flattening the curve and toughening up at the borders can only help. So that's a good thing. But it does create a whole new batch of issues, in and of itself. Anyone here got any travel plans that are/may be affected by this? I have an Aus trip that I may cancel because 14 day isolation in Aus followed by 14 day isolation in NZ is not feasible. Edited March 16, 2020 by patches
Wayne Potgieter Posted March 16, 2020 Author Posted March 16, 2020 The good, bad & ugly all in 1... The recent travel conditions (14 day self isolation) announced in both Australia and New Zealand. I agree that we need to assist in flattening the curve and toughening up at the borders can only help. So that's a good thing. But it does create a whole new batch of issues, in and of itself. Anyone here got any travel plans that are/may be affected by this? I have an Aus trip that I may cancel because 14 day isolation in Aus followed by 14 day isolation in NZ is not feasible. I had three trips planned over the next six weeks. All cancelled.
GrahamS2 Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 The good, bad & ugly all in 1... The recent travel conditions (14 day self isolation) announced in both Australia and New Zealand. I agree that we need to assist in flattening the curve and toughening up at the borders can only help. So that's a good thing. But it does create a whole new batch of issues, in and of itself. Anyone here got any travel plans that are/may be affected by this? I have an Aus trip that I may cancel because 14 day isolation in Aus followed by 14 day isolation in NZ is not feasible.Australia implemented the same as of today. My parents were due to visit me in April from SA and have had to cancel their trip.
davetapson Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) Been struggling to get a visa for the folks since December - came through about two weeks ago, just in time for everything to become really squirrelly. We've decided to get them out regardless, the main reason being that we'd prefer them to be sick here rather than Grahamstown. However they say they can't be ready to travel for 10 days so who knows what the situation will be by then. Two weeks isolation isn't much of a stress as they're gonna be hammered by the flights anyway. Just a shame they will not be able to enjoy NZ properly. A part of me says that stashed away in their retirement home they might be less exposed than in a family situation here, esp with a potential plague monkey student - but if they got sick there, then there are problems. Edit: They only got two months - I thought they were supposed to get 9 months during the next 18 months? Edited March 16, 2020 by davetapson
RossW Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 Australia implemented the same as of today. My parents were due to visit me in April from SA and have had to cancel their trip.The same with us. Wife's parents due to arrive 30 March. Cancelled until unknown date.
Saag Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 The same with us. Wife's parents due to arrive 30 March. Cancelled until unknown date.Yep, same here. Parents in law supposed to fly out in 2 weeks. Now they going to stay there rather. Business travel to US also stopped for myself.
intern Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 Three weeks ago to my wife's horror I cancelled our April SA trip. Glad I did.
davetapson Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 Three weeks ago to my wife's horror I cancelled our April SA trip. Glad I did. I can imagine that went down like a cup of cold sick... intern 1
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