New Zealand - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.

[IceCreamMan]

I see NZ borders to remain closed to end of 2021. 

How does that affect you guys in NZ?

[patches]

12 hours ago, IceCreamMan said:

I see NZ borders to remain closed to end of 2021. 

How does that affect you guys in NZ?

Potentially just messes with our usual December Sydney trip. Didn't have any other big adventures planned.

This morning on the breakfast show they were interviewing a kiwi woman on a long holiday in Italy (and other parts of Europe) who was complaining about the MIQ process to the point that she has engaged the services of a human rights lawyer to help file a case against the NZ government.

She whinges on about MIQ denying her the right to return to her country of citizenship. Whilst spots are limited and the booking system does have flaws, she is not denied the right to return, and touting the phrase "violation of human rights" is a pretty serious allegation.

I'm not sure what her objective was but she just came across as entitled and selfish.

[davetapson]

On 8/12/2021 at 7:18 PM, IceCreamMan said:

I see NZ borders to remain closed to end of 2021. 

How does that affect you guys in NZ?

What it's doing is keeping vast amounts of cash sloshing around the local economy.

I don't think anyone quite realised how much Kiwis spend on finding some sunshine.  And cheap food and booze. 

[GrahamS2]

On 8/12/2021 at 8:16 AM, patham said:

I use a Thule Easy-fold XT3. Back in SA I had a Thule hatch hanger-on style and I really didn't trust it for long trips or heavy loads (more than 1 bike). As I now carry 3 x dual-suss, I don't want that load on the sheet metal.

The in-thing now in Aus looking at the trail head car-parks is to buy an expensive 4x4 dual cab, and put a tailgate pad on !

 

???? Too true!

[Slowbee]

How you guys feeling about the country wide lockdown for 1, yes 1 case ?

 

What is the general sentiment ?

 

[IceCreamMan]

5 minutes ago, Slowbee said:

How you guys feeling about the country wide lockdown for 1, yes 1 case ?

 

What is the general sentiment ?

 

Read that on the BBC. Wait n see if it is the correct path and open after all have been vaccinated. 

[patches]

4 hours ago, Slowbee said:

How you guys feeling about the country wide lockdown for 1, yes 1 case ?

 

What is the general sentiment ?

 

General sentiment seems to be pretty positive. NZ has been watching what has been happening in NSW and it terrifies us. They're in their 8th/9th week of lockdown, I believe.

This morning they interviewed Judith Collins (the leader of the opposition) and even she agreed with the approach. She did have a dig at the low vaccination rates and she's not entirely wrong, but the "go hard and early" approach seems to have the backing of the people (or at least the ones I speak to).

There are now 5 cases in the community. One is a co-worker linked to the fist and the other 3 are linked to that one. One of the cases is a nurse at the Auckland City Hospital (my place of work). She is fully vaccinated so hopefully she was less contagious. We received an email last night notifying staff of the infected healthcare worker and some additional details. Fortunately I spend most of my time offsite and our campus is huge so I'm low risk.

[Wayne Potgieter]

6 hours ago, Slowbee said:

How you guys feeling about the country wide lockdown for 1, yes 1 case ?

 

What is the general sentiment ?

 

Totally support it.

From watching the entire world, 1 case can become thousands if people are slow to react.

Personally, Id rather have a shorter sharper lockdown then a long drawn out one with people dying.

 

Edited August 17, 2021 by Wayne Potgieter

[patham]

6 hours ago, Slowbee said:

How you guys feeling about the country wide lockdown for 1, yes 1 case ?

 

What is the general sentiment ?

 

 

/S = ON

Slowbee- did you not get the memo from Matt & Admin ? You're gonna get this thread locked up by using the C word and bringing up current events (a double no-no)- and then where are we "when-we's" of the good old hub days meant to go? 

/S = OFF

 

[GrahamS2]

1 hour ago, Wayne Potgieter said:

Totally support it.

From watching the entire world, 1 case can become thousands if people are slow to react.

Personally, Id rather have a shorter sharper lockdown then a long drawn out one with people dying.

 

Spot on. Look at the different approaches NSW and QLD took, and the outcomes. The only way to contain the Delta variant for now is a hard, fast lockdown.

[Slowbee]

This thread is so far buried in the forum that it wont pop up that easily on main chat. It wont take away from the cycling aspect of the site. And besides, if one does not take advantage of certain powers one has then whats the point ????? (As the ex sheriff would say it could be considered bias).

I am also on the motorhome home group of NZ (????) and like you guys the general sentiment is one of support. Even on the MIQ FB page it is positive about the lockdown, not the booking system. Ex pats are turning slightly xenophobic in desperation to get booking slots on MIQ (there is calls for NZ passport holders to be given priority).

It is incredible what can be achieved when the general public agree with and hence comply with what the government is trying to achieve. In contrast to so many places where the public just did what they wanted anyway.  However, I do hope they change their minds about residency visa's by the time we get there.  The 16th cannot come fast enough.  And I really hope they do not cancel flights into NZ.

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

13 hours ago, IceCreamMan said:

Read that on the BBC. Wait n see if it is the correct path and open after all have been vaccinated. 

Yeah because the vaccine is so efficient that you can't get it, or transmit it, or die if you got it right................
 

[arabsandals]

43 minutes ago, Steven Knoetze (sk27) said:

Yeah because the vaccine is so efficient that you can't get it, or transmit it, or die if you got it right................
 

sigh. Here we go again.

[IceCreamMan]

1 hour ago, Steven Knoetze (sk27) said:

Yeah because the vaccine is so efficient that you can't get it, or transmit it, or die if you got it right................
 

Well at some point Nz will need to open up. Only then will we have the data to see if it was the right approach. Until then it’s all conjecture. Could be the perfect approach. Might be the worst possible approach. Time will tell. 
 

very few countries would have been able to implement this approach anyway. If it has the support of the ppl then happy days. 

[Slowbee]

ummm we can let a few posts slide, but not many... *cough cough*

Yes I know, my fault for starting, but just wanted to ask how the people on the ground felt as opposed to opinions on the strategy.

 

[Plentipotential]

19 hours ago, Slowbee said:

How you guys feeling about the country wide lockdown for 1, yes 1 case ?

 

What is the general sentiment ?

 

That's how they roll down there. Different evolutionary pathways. No wonder the animals are so different.