New Zealand - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.

[RossW]

Has she written again and got a 7 for writing?

It seems like that one is the most difficult to pass here, of the time my sis got a 6.5 for it only 2 people that wrote on that day got 7's (nothing higher).

How did you discover that out of all who wrote, only two candidates achieved a score of 7? Results are not put up on a notice board to my knowledge. To review my result I was required to log in to the IELTS website as memory serves.

[hayleyearth]

How did you discover that out of all who wrote, only two candidates achieved a score of 7? Results are not put up on a notice board to my knowledge. To review my result I was required to log in to the IELTS website as memory serves.

 

There was a list of all the candidates and their results when my sis went to fetch her certificate at the place where they despatch all the certificates from (they are the main centre here in NZ).

 

Edit: You can go fetch your results and/or they post it to you and/or you can view it on line.

Edited May 16, 2018 by hayleyearth

[hayleyearth]

Congrats WP on your families PR!!

I am jealous!

 

 

(My residency process will only start in 3 weeks!)

 

And ONLY +- 5 weeks till we have to get use to another completely new process  

[hayleyearth]

Not even my test, but just as happy!!

My sis passed! One step closer to her NZ life

 

[Wayne Potgieter]

Not even my test, but just as happy!!

My sis passed! One step closer to her NZ life

 

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THATS AWESOME!!!

 

Well done C.

[patches]

Congrats WP on your families PR!!

I am jealous!

 

 

(My residency process will only start in 3 weeks!)

 

And ONLY +- 5 weeks till we have to get use to another completely new process  

 

 

Have you got your documentation all lined up?

 

Here's KPMG's checklist for anyone that needs it.

 

Resident Visa Checklist.pdf

 

I finally got all my documents from SA this week. (between 3 of us we spent R12 000 on 5 documents from SA... and that's after discount).

 

It's now just a 2 week waiting game until I get my 3rd month's payslip from my current employer (only been with them 2.5 months), but then A-for-Away, and hopefully with the EY cover letter the'll fast track my application straight to PR.

[hayleyearth]

Have you got your documentation all lined up?

 

Here's KPMG's checklist for anyone that needs it.

 

Resident Visa Checklist.pdf

 

I finally got all my documents from SA this week. (between 3 of us we spent R12 000 on 5 documents from SA... and that's after discount).

 

It's now just a 2 week waiting game until I get my 3rd month's payslip from my current employer (only been with them 2.5 months), but then A-for-Away, and hopefully with the EY cover letter the'll fast track my application straight to PR.

 

 

Police clearance certificates are only taking 1 week these days at the police department in SA (from submission to ready to collect) so I didn't have the need to pay someone this time to fast track it.

[Wayne Potgieter]

I am doing a garage clearout.

 

Let me know if you are interested in anything here.

 

1. a giant fully inflatable Zempire Aerobase 3 tent. Used twice. $1,700. Sells new for $2,400

2. Spalding elite golf clubs - Used once. Golf is not for me. I want $375. Sells new for $499. comes with a few extras like balls and tees.

3. Thule Proride 598 Black bike rack - used once. I normally just use my tow hitch carrier. This is in new condition There is not even mud on the thing. Sells new for $339. I want $245

4. Thule 7326 ski and snowboard rack. Also used only once last year. Sells new for $349, i want $275

5. Richey P650B frame in custom colour scheme of black and pink. Make me an offer. Small size. WARNING - this has my kids names sprayed on the frame as it was a gift for my wife a few years back. Will need a respray or maybe a sticker placed over the names.

 

if you are interested, let me know and i will pm you photos of the thing you like.

 

Thanks!

Edited May 21, 2018 by Wayne Potgieter

[Rocket-Boy]

Hey everyone, been following this thread since the very start but need to find some info it anyone can help?

 

Im looking to move to NZ, but Im not even sure where to start or what type of visas etc to apply for?

 

I dont have any degrees but I have many year of experience in some highly specialised IT areas.

So what Im wondering is do I look at finding employment and then trying to apply for a working visa? Does the company get involved to confirm employment and make the process easier?

 

Or do I just try and apply for a work visa and see how it goes?

[patches]

Hey everyone, been following this thread since the very start but need to find some info it anyone can help?

 

Im looking to move to NZ, but Im not even sure where to start or what type of visas etc to apply for?

 

I dont have any degrees but I have many year of experience in some highly specialised IT areas.

So what Im wondering is do I look at finding employment and then trying to apply for a working visa? Does the company get involved to confirm employment and make the process easier?

 

Or do I just try and apply for a work visa and see how it goes?

 

Hey there, happy to help where I can.

 

So work and visas...

 

4 basic options (apart form those depending on relatives with kiwi PR.

1. Skilled Migrant Visa
2. Work to Residence Visa
3. Investment Visa
4. Entrepreneur Visa

Out of those 4, options 1 & 2 are probably your best bet (unless you have over R20m to invest, or plan on starting a business here with a capital investment of around R880 000).

 

Also, if you're over 55, you're going to have a hard time.

 

Skilled Migrant works on a points system. Points are calculated based on age, experience, field of work, qualifications, where you want to work (less points for Auckland), your partners credentials, and the big one... a job offer.

 

You can calculate them here:

 

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/apply-for-a-visa/tools-and-information/tools/points-indicator-smc-28aug?_ga=2.46260263.1665710237.1526938051-55938091.1526938051

 

In order to be invited to apply you need 160 points or more. As far as I can recall a job offer counts as 60 points, so a huge chunk. Without a job offer and a degree it'll be pretty hard to reach 160.

 

So in my opinion your best bet is a Work to Residence visa. These have sub categories like accredited employer, long term skills shortage, etc.

 

Skills shortage list found here:

 

http://skillshortages.immigration.govt.nz/?_ga=2.51441449.1665710237.1526938051-55938091.1526938051

 

Accredited employer is the route that many people take. This basically means that certain employers on the list below can vouch for you. So if you get a job offer from them for over $55 000 p.a. you're pretty much set. No language tests, no points calculations etc.

 

Accredited Employer list.

 

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/apply-for-a-visa/tools-and-information/tools/accredited-employers-list

 

So here's the catch 22 for both the Skilled Migrant and the Work to Residence visas... a job offer is needed to be granted a visa 9unless you have enough points on a skilled migrant), BUT a lot of employers aren't keen on making an offer unless yo have a visa (or are at least in the country).

 

Some of us here were lucky and transferred over with the companies we worked for in SA. Some of us went through immigration agents who basically act vouch for you and say to the potential employers that should you be made an offer you will get a visa. And some of us went the normal skilled migrant route. (perhaps there were some that had tens of millions of rands to invest).

 

But yeah, hope that helps a bit. Check this out for further advice:

 

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/options/work/explore-work-visa-options

[hayleyearth]

Hey there, happy to help where I can.

 

So work and visas...

 

4 basic options (apart form those depending on relatives with kiwi PR.

1. Skilled Migrant Visa
2. Work to Residence Visa
3. Investment Visa
4. Entrepreneur Visa

Out of those 4, options 1 & 2 are probably your best bet (unless you have over R20m to invest, or plan on starting a business here with a capital investment of around R880 000).

 

Also, if you're over 55, you're going to have a hard time.

 

Skilled Migrant works on a points system. Points are calculated based on age, experience, field of work, qualifications, where you want to work (less points for Auckland), your partners credentials, and the big one... a job offer.

 

You can calculate them here:

 

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/apply-for-a-visa/tools-and-information/tools/points-indicator-smc-28aug?_ga=2.46260263.1665710237.1526938051-55938091.1526938051

 

In order to be invited to apply you need 160 points or more. As far as I can recall a job offer counts as 60 points, so a huge chunk. Without a job offer and a degree it'll be pretty hard to reach 160.

 

So in my opinion your best bet is a Work to Residence visa. These have sub categories like accredited employer, long term skills shortage, etc.

 

Skills shortage list found here:

 

http://skillshortages.immigration.govt.nz/?_ga=2.51441449.1665710237.1526938051-55938091.1526938051

 

Accredited employer is the route that many people take. This basically means that certain employers on the list below can vouch for you. So if you get a job offer from them for over $55 000 p.a. you're pretty much set. No language tests, no points calculations etc.

 

Accredited Employer list.

 

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/apply-for-a-visa/tools-and-information/tools/accredited-employers-list

 

So here's the catch 22 for both the Skilled Migrant and the Work to Residence visas... a job offer is needed to be granted a visa 9unless you have enough points on a skilled migrant), BUT a lot of employers aren't keen on making an offer unless yo have a visa (or are at least in the country).

 

Some of us here were lucky and transferred over with the companies we worked for in SA. Some of us went through immigration agents who basically act vouch for you and say to the potential employers that should you be made an offer you will get a visa. And some of us went the normal skilled migrant route. (perhaps there were some that had tens of millions of rands to invest).

 

But yeah, hope that helps a bit. Check this out for further advice:

 

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/options/work/explore-work-visa-options

 

 

You have something big wrong there with point nr.1 ....

 

The points system is not for a 'work' visa, but for a residency visa. And you don't really need a job for that one (I think it is the only one you can come in with without having a job and millions of monies), but then you basically need to get 'full' points on all the other parts (so without a degree it can be difficult too).

 

These are 2 different options...

[patches]

You have something big wrong there with point nr.1 ....

 

The points system is not for a 'work' visa, but for a residency visa. And you don't really need a job for that one (I think it is the only one you can come in with without having a job and millions of monies), but then you basically need to get 'full' points on all the other parts (so without a degree it can be difficult too).

 

These are 2 different options...

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I never said it was a "work visa"... the line says "work and visas"

 

The investor visa isn't a work visa either.

 

But you should tell INZ they have it wrong on their site too

 

 

Anyway, semantics!

 

but yeah, as I mentioned before and as hayleyearth said, the Skilled Migrant visa is attainable without a job offer (which counts for 50 points, not the 60 as I previously thought), but without a degree (which counts anywhere from 40 - 70 points), it may be hard to reach 160 without the job offer.

 

Any yes, with the Skilled Migrant being a residence class visa it does make the path to citizenship shorter than going the Work to Residence route. It also allows some more freedom around employment in that if you claimed points for a job offer, then you only need to stay in that job for a minimum of 3 months (12 months if you claimed points for being outside Auckland), then you can do what you like.

 

The Talent - Accredited Employer Visa (Work to Residence) requires one to have a minimum of 24 months of full time employment with an accredited employer (one can change jobs between accredited employers though), until they can apply for residency. Once they have residency then they can do what they like.

[Hairy]

Hey there, happy to help where I can.

 

So work and visas...

 

4 basic options (apart form those depending on relatives with kiwi PR.

1. Skilled Migrant Visa
2. Work to Residence Visa
3. Investment Visa
4. Entrepreneur Visa

Out of those 4, options 1 & 2 are probably your best bet (unless you have over R20m to invest, or plan on starting a business here with a capital investment of around R880 000).

 

Also, if you're over 55, you're going to have a hard time.

 

Skilled Migrant works on a points system. Points are calculated based on age, experience, field of work, qualifications, where you want to work (less points for Auckland), your partners credentials, and the big one... a job offer.

 

You can calculate them here:

 

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/apply-for-a-visa/tools-and-information/tools/points-indicator-smc-28aug?_ga=2.46260263.1665710237.1526938051-55938091.1526938051

 

In order to be invited to apply you need 160 points or more. As far as I can recall a job offer counts as 60 points, so a huge chunk. Without a job offer and a degree it'll be pretty hard to reach 160.

 

So in my opinion your best bet is a Work to Residence visa. These have sub categories like accredited employer, long term skills shortage, etc.

 

Skills shortage list found here:

 

http://skillshortages.immigration.govt.nz/?_ga=2.51441449.1665710237.1526938051-55938091.1526938051

 

Accredited employer is the route that many people take. This basically means that certain employers on the list below can vouch for you. So if you get a job offer from them for over $55 000 p.a. you're pretty much set. No language tests, no points calculations etc.

 

Accredited Employer list.

 

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/apply-for-a-visa/tools-and-information/tools/accredited-employers-list

 

So here's the catch 22 for both the Skilled Migrant and the Work to Residence visas... a job offer is needed to be granted a visa 9unless you have enough points on a skilled migrant), BUT a lot of employers aren't keen on making an offer unless yo have a visa (or are at least in the country).

 

Some of us here were lucky and transferred over with the companies we worked for in SA. Some of us went through immigration agents who basically act vouch for you and say to the potential employers that should you be made an offer you will get a visa. And some of us went the normal skilled migrant route. (perhaps there were some that had tens of millions of rands to invest).

 

But yeah, hope that helps a bit. Check this out for further advice:

 

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/options/work/explore-work-visa-options

Well this is interesting ..... been having chats to the wife RE options in NZ .... but this will be a long term discussion.

[Rocket-Boy]

Hey there, happy to help where I can.

 

So work and visas...

 

4 basic options (apart form those depending on relatives with kiwi PR.

1. Skilled Migrant Visa
2. Work to Residence Visa
3. Investment Visa
4. Entrepreneur Visa

Out of those 4, options 1 & 2 are probably your best bet (unless you have over R20m to invest, or plan on starting a business here with a capital investment of around R880 000).

 

Also, if you're over 55, you're going to have a hard time.

 

Skilled Migrant works on a points system. Points are calculated based on age, experience, field of work, qualifications, where you want to work (less points for Auckland), your partners credentials, and the big one... a job offer.

 

You can calculate them here:

 

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/apply-for-a-visa/tools-and-information/tools/points-indicator-smc-28aug?_ga=2.46260263.1665710237.1526938051-55938091.1526938051

 

In order to be invited to apply you need 160 points or more. As far as I can recall a job offer counts as 60 points, so a huge chunk. Without a job offer and a degree it'll be pretty hard to reach 160.

 

So in my opinion your best bet is a Work to Residence visa. These have sub categories like accredited employer, long term skills shortage, etc.

 

Skills shortage list found here:

 

http://skillshortages.immigration.govt.nz/?_ga=2.51441449.1665710237.1526938051-55938091.1526938051

 

Accredited employer is the route that many people take. This basically means that certain employers on the list below can vouch for you. So if you get a job offer from them for over $55 000 p.a. you're pretty much set. No language tests, no points calculations etc.

 

Accredited Employer list.

 

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/apply-for-a-visa/tools-and-information/tools/accredited-employers-list

 

So here's the catch 22 for both the Skilled Migrant and the Work to Residence visas... a job offer is needed to be granted a visa 9unless you have enough points on a skilled migrant), BUT a lot of employers aren't keen on making an offer unless yo have a visa (or are at least in the country).

 

Some of us here were lucky and transferred over with the companies we worked for in SA. Some of us went through immigration agents who basically act vouch for you and say to the potential employers that should you be made an offer you will get a visa. And some of us went the normal skilled migrant route. (perhaps there were some that had tens of millions of rands to invest).

 

But yeah, hope that helps a bit. Check this out for further advice:

 

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/options/work/explore-work-visa-options

Wow that was a great reply! thanks very much for that.

I think work to residence might be the one to go for then, I have checked various positions available and they all range from $95k-$125k so that should make it a viable route to follow.

 

Im going to do some reading through all the links you posted so that should keep me busy for a bit...

[Rocket-Boy]

Well this is interesting ..... been having chats to the wife RE options in NZ .... but this will be a long term discussion.

Hmm I have 115 and have 12 years+ working experience in the long term skills shortage list.

It says minimum of 100 points, so I wonder if its been lowered or if its just related to the long term shortage list?

[Wayne Potgieter]

Hmm I have 115 and have 12 years+ working experience in the long term skills shortage list.

It says minimum of 100 points, so I wonder if its been lowered or if its just related to the long term shortage list?

you are good.

 

With a job offer that puts you at 165.

 

If you need a place to stay for a few weeks to handle interviews and so on, let me know. We have a guest room with ensuite you can use.