Escapee.. Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 I know you okes are going to get cross with me but it seems inconceivable to me that one can cut calories to such an extent and not only not lose weight but actually put on? I mean where can your body get anything from to be adding .... is there not a case for not only cutting calories but also be careful what you are eating ... Captain since you use FitnessPal or whatever it is called could you perhaps show what you have eaten in the last week? My thinking is just cause you have so many calories per day does it mean you could just eat say chocolates for that amount or pizza or whatever .... does it have an influence I wonder? In my case I know that carbs (specifically bread, rice, pasta, potatoes, crisps and so on) are my kryptonite so to speak. Footnote - you okes know I'm not buying the water 'retention' thing + 1 Myles In stead of using MFP, rather post your daily consumption on here. That would be the best way to track it and we can also then see where the "water retention" is coming from. Been following the thread as I am very interested in the topic as a lot of people that I know are busy dieting or should be dieting.
NordicElf Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 + 1 Myles In stead of using MFP, rather post your daily consumption on here. That would be the best way to track it and we can also then see where the "water retention" is coming from. Been following the thread as I am very interested in the topic as a lot of people that I know are busy dieting or should be dieting. I used to use MFP but found that I would eat chocolates and stuff because I could sneak it in and that just set me off for worse food. I think it has to be calories in vs calories burned regardless of what they consist of but I believe that those calories will have an affect on nutrition, mood, cravings, satiety but I can't believe that they will affect weightloss. I've seen articles suggesting otherwise but nothing yet that has been able to change mind through logic. I just think it's easier to do it with healthy nutritious food with an eye on eating the best fuel.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 + 1 Myles In stead of using MFP, rather post your daily consumption on here. That would be the best way to track it and we can also then see where the "water retention" is coming from. Been following the thread as I am very interested in the topic as a lot of people that I know are busy dieting or should be dieting.Will be doing that Today: breakfast 2 eggs & some pork tjop from braai on Saturday. Lunch: more pork tjop (talking 100g here) and loads of broccoli. Tonight: not sure. Depends what the wife wants as she gets back from Durban today. Probably grilled chicken and more broccoli for me. Maybe brown rice as well. Depends how much I've taken in cos I haven't touched MFP today. Loads of water. Gym: this evening. Weights and intense cardio
NotSoBigBen Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Will be doing that Today: breakfast 2 eggs & some pork tjop from braai on Saturday. Lunch: more pork tjop (talking 100g here) and loads of broccoli. Tonight: not sure. Depends what the wife wants as she gets back from Durban today. Probably grilled chicken and more broccoli for me. Maybe brown rice as well. Depends how much I've taken in cos I haven't touched MFP today. Loads of water. Gym: this evening. Weights and intense cardio Why 'loads' of broccoli (personally I don't think anyone should be forced to eat that or brussel sprouts ) and the brown rice
partydave Posted July 18, 2016 Author Posted July 18, 2016 I'll post my daily meals and exercise along with the weight difference it made if anyone is interested. I'm busy with an intermittent fasting cycle, so it may be on the rough side for those used to eating. Yesterday: Weigh-in: 69.8kg Breakfast: 500ml water, large cup coffee Training: 51 km medium intensity cycle Lunch: fist sized portion cauliflower, chicken breast & almond nuts Dinner: 2 beef tjops, 2 cups veggies and 2 grilled potatoes Todays weigh-in: 69.4kg
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Why 'loads' of broccoli (personally I don't think anyone should be forced to eat that or brussel sprouts ) and the brown rice I love broccoli. Especially with butter... and salt n pepper. But brown rice... dunno. You reckon I should cut starch altogether?
partydave Posted July 18, 2016 Author Posted July 18, 2016 Why 'loads' of broccoli (personally I don't think anyone should be forced to eat that or brussel sprouts ) and the brown rice Rice is considered a "safe" carb. Absolutely nothing wrong with it in moderated quantities. I have a large portion healthy carbs (rice, potatoes, starchy veg) every night with no adverse effects.
partydave Posted July 18, 2016 Author Posted July 18, 2016 I love broccoli. Especially with butter... and salt n pepper. But brown rice... dunno. You reckon I should cut starch altogether? Did IF not work for you?
NotSoBigBen Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 I love broccoli. Especially with butter... and salt n pepper. But brown rice... dunno. You reckon I should cut starch altogether? I did and it has done amazing things for me ..... worth a try and no for those who think they don't get in 'enough' for their 'strenuous' training regime think about this In a normal day I eat as follows BF - 2 * boiled eggs, 2-3 cups of cappuccino with full cream milk and sweetenerLU - 1 small tin of flavoured Tuna/chicken breastSU - whatever meat my family is eating (even if it's just a small serving of mince when they have Spaghetti Bolognaise) A few more cofees during the day and then generally some or other diet colddrink And if anyone is interested I could send you a normal weeks training you may be shocked what you can do, I take nothing for rides up to 2 hours and over that I take water and occasionally a banana - I've never felt faint or hit a wall or fallen over or anything ... I'm also not stupid and when I do race I use carbs and whatever else I need including gu's, juices and the like I know people say well that may work for you but jeez guys maybe I'm just a little more determined?
partydave Posted July 18, 2016 Author Posted July 18, 2016 I did and it has done amazing things for me ..... worth a try and no for those who think they don't get in 'enough' for their 'strenuous' training regime think about this In a normal day I eat as follows BF - 2 * boiled eggs, 2-3 cups of cappuccino with full cream milk and sweetenerLU - 1 small tin of flavoured Tuna/chicken breastSU - whatever meat my family is eating (even if it's just a small serving of mince when they have Spaghetti Bolognaise) A few more cofees during the day and then generally some or other diet colddrink And if anyone is interested I could send you a normal weeks training you may be shocked what you can do, I take nothing for rides up to 2 hours and over that I take water and occasionally a banana - I've never felt faint or hit a wall or fallen over or anything ... I'm also not stupid and when I do race I use carbs and whatever else I need including gu's, juices and the like I know people say well that may work for you but jeez guys maybe I'm just a little more determined? Personally, I'd cut the diet sodas and sweetener
NotSoBigBen Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Personally, I'd cut the diet sodas and sweetener I'm OK with those ....
MTBeer Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 for those of you that like rice, this may be of interest. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11489675/Simple-rice-cooking-hack-could-reduce-calories-by-60-per-cent.html
MTBeer Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 oh and I don't know how some of you okes survive on so little food. A tin of tuna for lunch a glass of water and a coffee for bfast
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Did IF not work for you?I ate the fridge on returning home. So no, not really. Maybe I just cracked too easily and need a kick.
NotSoBigBen Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Maybe not THAT determined then?Would cutting those affect weight loss that we are discussing here?
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