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[Stoffel76]

The pines were planted for timber, like tomatoes are planted to be eaten. The fact that the pines give nice shade and people like them, still does not change the fact that they are there to be cut down by their rightful owner. All legally, and within his rights.

Exactly! I remember years ago just before they felled the pines in the lower section I was there walking the dog. A lady with a clip board came up to me and asked me to sign a petition to stop the felling.  I asked why they were against it since it was a plantation and as such the trees were planted in order to be used.  She didn't say a word, just turned around and walked away...

 

The tree's are nice, but i'd prefer fynbos any day of the week...  (and from a mountian biking perspective, fynbos is also a more forgiving to crash into than a large pine tree when I run out of talent...   )

[(Deon)]

The second coming, or hell freezing over, two events I'd like to be alive to witness but I know it won't be around saving pine trees. 

 

Flying pink elephants, maybe.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Exactly! I remember years ago just before they felled the pines in the lower section I was there walking the dog. A lady with a clip board came up to me and asked me to sign a petition to stop the felling.  I asked why they were against it since it was a plantation and as such the trees were planted in order to be used.  She didn't say a word, just turned around and walked away...

 

The tree's are nice, but i'd prefer fynbos any day of the week...  (and from a mountian biking perspective, fynbos is also a more forgiving to crash into than a large pine tree when I run out of talent...   )

That's just typical of a large portion of teh global population who live in a world where if you don't agree, you're not worth their time and they don't attempt to engage at all. 

[Wannabe]

Have you guys ever noticed how it seems like there is very little other life in a pine forest, no birds, other plants, etc?

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Have you guys ever noticed how it seems like there is very little other life in a pine forest, no birds, other plants, etc?

Yep. It's ecologically sterile. Apart from the squirrels and baboons, and some birds that nest in those higher branches, there's nothing else. Compare that to the ecological diversity in a fynbos reserve... 

[Headshot]

Some real first world problems here... *rolls eyes*

 

True, but that doesn't mean we should ignore abuses of power, just because its middle class people complaining. (not suggesting there has been an abuse here...)

[Headshot]

Yep. It's ecologically sterile. Apart from the squirrels and baboons, and some birds that nest in those higher branches, there's nothing else. Compare that to the ecological diversity in a fynbos reserve... 

Ya, and at LT, the fynbos contains rapists and murderers at times...lovely endemic species, the Tikkus Koppus.  The point about safety is valid IMO. They could have all the fynbos they like in the area over the road where nobody walks. LT is a park that is being rendered far from park like with the felling. 

 

I love Fynbos by the way :-)

[(Deon)]

Have you guys ever noticed how it seems like there is very little other life in a pine forest, no birds, other plants, etc?

Now we have a group justifying that pine trees should remain because, "without it how will the baboons survive?" Suggesting that baboons eat for only a few months of the year when the nuts are growing.. 

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Ya, and at LT, the fynbos contains rapists and murderers at times...lovely endemic species, the Tikkus Koppus.  The point about safety is valid IMO. They could have all the fynbos they like in the area over the road where nobody walks. LT is a park that is being rendered far from park like with the felling. 

 

I love Fynbos by the way :-)

Agreed that it's a problem, but keeping the pines isn't the solution... Improved policing is. Just ask D how crap the local SAPS office is... 

[Pure Savage]

Ya, and at LT, the fynbos contains rapists and murderers at times...lovely endemic species, the Tikkus Koppus.  The point about safety is valid IMO. They could have all the fynbos they like in the area over the road where nobody walks. LT is a park that is being rendered far from park like with the felling. 

 

I love Fynbos by the way :-)

 

I dont even see how the pines are safer than the Fynbos, does fynbos supply people with Tik. Solving the actual problem would be a solution, not just making them easier to spot. Fynbos makes it harder for murderers and rapists to escape as well. 

 

I think there are some real middle class issues facing the world, but a company harvesting their stock is not one of them. 

 

I dont even like Fynbos. 

 

*Added my feelings towards Fynbos

[Stoffel76]

That's just typical of a large portion of teh global population who live in a world where if you don't agree, you're not worth their time and they don't attempt to engage at all. 

I don't know - I like to think she was stumped (see what I did there... ) by my undeniable logic and just didn't have an answer...

[Headshot]

PureS - i used to ride LT 20 years ago when it was full of pines. Its flat and the tree spacing makes it easy to see for miles. Same applies in the remaining pine areas. The same cannot be said for the fynbos bush areas which provided great cover to Tikkus Koppus.

[(Deon)]

PureS - i used to ride LT 20 years ago when it was full of pines. Its flat and the tree spacing makes it easy to see for miles. Same applies in the remaining pine areas. The same cannot be said for the fynbos bush areas which provided great cover to Tikkus Koppus.

Sure, it makes sense if one has absolutely no idea where the threat is coming from. But when the police have a name, an address and know every last movement down to when the "dude" is dropping off his working girls (and where), then one has to wonder if keeping the trees will be enough to offer the quoted "safety" to the many people making donations...

 

It's at this point that I start to wonder if the money raised to fight the gazetted piece of legislation for weeks, maybe months in court could not have been better spent solving the root cause of the issue. Certainly more people will benefit, even those who have need never used the plantation.

 

One last thing, just remember that keeping the trees will not make one safer, it just adds to the perception of safety, and only from the perps who still feel the need to hide. Concretus jungluelous Tikkus Koppus of the 'Moor is well beyond needing a hiding place, especially when discussing the greater spotted repeatus offendiumae subspecies. 

[Headshot]

Agreed, money is being wasted with this court action. Could be better spent on upgrading the security situation at LT...

[capediver]

Some welcome additions to the Firgrove road crossing, happening both sides....

[porqui]

Some welcome additions to the Firgrove road crossing, happening both sides....

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Could we hope for top and bottom of Rathfelder in Constantia too?

Please !!