NotSoBigBen Posted October 4, 2016 Share http://newatlas.com/stanford-airbag-helmet-drop-tests/45740/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannrissik Posted October 4, 2016 Share because quite simply the benefits of riding with a helmet far outweigh the perceived benefits of riding without one. No study will be able to show, without introducing SIGNIFICANT bias, that the non use of helmets is better. It's one of those things that has sufficient evidence to allow someone to dismiss any other study citing the benefits of helmetlesness as simple twaddle. Much like the climate change denialists harping on about the "3% of scientists that disagree"I think you might be oversimplifying things.As a former skydiver I know that parachutes save lives, no study needed there. I think we can safely assume that helmets on certain cyclist's heads can and do prevent certain types of injury. To state that "citing the benefits of helmetlesness as simple twaddle" isn't helpful. One only has to look at cyclists in Europe. (There are issues around compulsory helmet laws discouraging cycling) And it's nothing like climate change denialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted October 4, 2016 Share I think you might be oversimplifying things.As a former skydiver I know that parachutes save lives, no study needed there. I think we can safely assume that helmets on certain cyclist's heads can and do prevent certain types of injury. To state that "citing the benefits of helmetlesness as simple twaddle" isn't helpful. One only has to look at cyclists in Europe. (There are issues around compulsory helmet laws discouraging cycling) And it's nothing like climate change denialism.I'm not saying helmet laws on bikes should be a compulsory thing, far from it. I'm raising the point that those who claim helmetlessness is better than helmetonheadness is inherently flawed. Compulsory helmet wearing may discourage cycling, but that doesn't make cycling without a helmet less dangerous than cycling with one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannrissik Posted October 4, 2016 Share I'm not saying helmet laws on bikes should be a compulsory thing, far from it. I'm raising the point that those who claim helmetlessness is better than helmetonheadness is inherently flawed. Compulsory helmet wearing may discourage cycling, but that doesn't make cycling without a helmet less dangerous than cycling with one. OK, I thought for a moment Friday was a few days early It is an interesting and complex issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted October 4, 2016 Share OK, I thought for a moment Friday was a few days early It is an interesting and complex issue.No its not. Wear your helmet. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitting slip Posted October 4, 2016 Share https://www.ted.com/talks/david_camarillo_why_helmets_don_t_prevent_concussions_and_what_might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porqui Posted October 4, 2016 Share Really? No studies needed?Why ever not? And if one were, for example, to consider the bigger picture? BTW: I also take my chances with a helmet. It's not that studies are of no use - on the contrary. It's just that I don't need a study to convince me.I am already more than convinced that a helmet is the better option from what I have personally seen and experienced. What I can't understand is that there are those who advocate riding without a helmet.It is dangerous enough with a helmet on. Do NOT tell me that riding without a helmet makes you a more careful rider - as Mangosuthu would say - bollocks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydude Posted October 5, 2016 Share A bit of a troll question, but also serious. This 'helmet' is six times better at taking an impact than a normal helmet, thus should we campaign for everyone to wear it? Inflatable bike helmet reduces crash impact by ‘six times that of traditional helmet’ https://t.co/U34QXM6ZJM https://t.co/gc6OYJifUb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Wheel Base Posted October 5, 2016 Share Anyone know where I can get a helmet for a baby/toddler? My lightie is 10 months old and I just bought a baby chair for my bike as well as one of those platic motor bikes. We won't allow him to use either till I get a helmet. Was at my LBS today and they only had ones for about a 4 year old. They said they can order but it's pricey(about 800) and I should try a baby toy shop or even possibly makro. Problem is at this age he will probably only use it for a few months then it's too small. Sent from my LG-H735 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCTG Posted October 5, 2016 Share a helmet saved my life this weekend when i came off my bike....take care people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V12man Posted October 5, 2016 Share a helmet saved my life this weekend when i came off my bike....take care people.helmet pictures or it didn't happen glad you survived Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannrissik Posted October 6, 2016 Share If this fire needs any (old) fuel for Friday... http://www.waba.org/blog/2013/06/feds-withdraw-claim-that-bike-helmets-are-85-percent-effective/ Ooops, I nearly forgot, we don't need any studies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henningvr Posted October 6, 2016 Share Without having read a plethora of studies, common sense says that a bicycle helmet is going to be anywhere from 0 - 100% effective on any given day. It all depends on the circumstances, i.o.w. a pretty large array of variables. It's a roll of the dice, so to speak. It might be your lucky day, and the variables land in your favour. Or not. Still, none of this negates the fact that it is better for two legged creatures who propel themselves around on two wheeled objects to wear helmets. When the variables are a little off kilter on any given day, and you see your arse, a helmet might just keep one from pegging, or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannrissik Posted October 6, 2016 Share On a sombre note... http://cycling-today.com/mother-dies-from-bike-crash-moments-after-taking-this-selfie/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V12man Posted October 6, 2016 Share On a sombre note... http://cycling-today.com/mother-dies-from-bike-crash-moments-after-taking-this-selfie/clearly alchohol, cycling helmetless and selfies don't mix real well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted October 7, 2016 Share If this fire needs any (old) fuel for Friday... http://www.waba.org/blog/2013/06/feds-withdraw-claim-that-bike-helmets-are-85-percent-effective/ Ooops, I nearly forgot, we don't need any studies Except that that study doesn't support the "cycling without helmets is safer" brigade. Nowhere has anyone (here) said that helmets are perfectly safe, nor need no more development. That much is indisputable - and that's why we're seeing things like MIPS, that air-bag type helmet that Capricorn posted, the armourgel equivalent of MIPS from Leatt and so on. Development is important, especially from a concussion mitigation perspective. Helmets simply don't offer full protection against that - but they DO offer more protection than no helmet at all. The straw man argument that is "helmet laws discourage cycling therefore helmets are bad" has nothing to do with the safety aspects of wearing a helmet. That's a separate argument altogether, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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