Power Meters?

[Thomo]

Lotsa pain to come...

Now your pain can be quantified.

[rudi-h]

are MTB and road cranks interchangable?

 

I have just become a proud owner of an ultegra road crank (stages) and never really considered a PM for my MTB.  However, would it be possible to replace the SLX crank arm on my MTB with the ultegra stages crank should I wish to do so?

[shaper]

are MTB and road cranks interchangable?

 

I have just become a proud owner of an ultegra road crank (stages) and never really considered a PM for my MTB.  However, would it be possible to replace the SLX crank arm on my MTB with the ultegra stages crank should I wish to do so?

what your crank arm lengths?  MTB is usually 175mm.  Is your Ultegra 175mm?

[rudi-h]

what your crank arm lengths?  MTB is usually 175mm.  Is your Ultegra 175mm?

 

will check it out when i get home today

[usxorf]

are MTB and road cranks interchangable?

 

I have just become a proud owner of an ultegra road crank (stages) and never really considered a PM for my MTB.  However, would it be possible to replace the SLX crank arm on my MTB with the ultegra stages crank should I wish to do so?

The Q factor might be different between the slx and ultegra cranks, mtb pedals are spaced wider apart. Apart from being a bit lopsided the pedal or your shoe might hit the chainstay.

[Christian van Zyl]

Hi Everyone,

 

I am on the market for a power meter but there seem to be so many options out there? I really do not have 20k to drop on a training tool.

 

Any recommendations for something under 9k?

 

Shot 

Check these out:

 

http://www.stelvio7.co.za/our-brands.html

[dawnh100]

So... 

I've just upgraded my road wheels, rendering my hub power meter useless.  With Black Friday tomorrow and over the weekend - any recommendations on pedals /crankset? I see that CWC has great Stages specials, but not heard great things about the power meter themselves.  

 

Not sure where to even look for Quarq, and think the powertap 1 sided pedals are a little expensive.

 

Any other recommendations would be hugely appreciated! 

[cadenceblur]

So... 

I've just upgraded my road wheels, rendering my hub power meter useless.  With Black Friday tomorrow and over the weekend - any recommendations on pedals /crankset? I see that CWC has great Stages specials, but not heard great things about the power meter themselves.  

 

Not sure where to even look for Quarq, and think the powertap 1 sided pedals are a little expensive.

 

Any other recommendations would be hugely appreciated!

 

stages had issues with the Gen 1 units they've since sorted this. Mine is working fine on MTB. Also look at Power tap Chainings. Also decent.

[Patchelicious]

So...

I've just upgraded my road wheels, rendering my hub power meter useless. With Black Friday tomorrow and over the weekend - any recommendations on pedals /crankset? I see that CWC has great Stages specials, but not heard great things about the power meter themselves.

 

Not sure where to even look for Quarq, and think the powertap 1 sided pedals are a little expensive.

 

Any other recommendations would be hugely appreciated!

Have stages on 3 bikes, brilliant. Issues sorted out with Gen2.

['Dale]

So...

I've just upgraded my road wheels, rendering my hub power meter useless. With Black Friday tomorrow and over the weekend - any recommendations on pedals /crankset? I see that CWC has great Stages specials, but not heard great things about the power meter themselves.

 

Not sure where to even look for Quarq, and think the powertap 1 sided pedals are a little expensive.

 

Any other recommendations would be hugely appreciated!

It's Stages Gen 1 on sale (waterproof issues)

The blue detailing

 

Have this on my roadbike

No issues as I use a Gen 2 O ring with it

[JLouw]

Here is my take on powermeters, I have 2. A stages and a quark. 

The stages was great but I had problems with it not reading properly and just not working at all. The batteries also seemed to get used up really really fast like every month I needed to replace one. I still have my Gen 2 stages laying around for later use on a road bike. Stages powermeters do not at all like water, they are not that good at not getting water damage and for a mtb this can be a problem. On the road should be fine. Also the locking rings that close on the battery compartment do get damaged pretty easy.

When buying a stages just make sure you still have the warranty. They are great at solving issues and have amazing customer support.

 

Now I always use my XX1 eagle Quarq. Its great. Easy to replace the battery, accurate and reliable and never enen replaced a batter yet!. I've had the stages die on me due to the battery being flat twice, it ate through batteries I tell you. Stages offer 1 year warranty. Sram/quarq offer 2 years.

 

Hubs: not the most buget thing and can be a huge issue to be rebuild and sent out to be fixed. Also the chainline and chain resistance does affect how much power is sent to the hub so accuracy can be questionable in my opinion.

Pedals: easy to swop between bikes but not 100% accurate

 

my coach uses a sram red Dzero and thats also nice.

 

These are great training tools and I can monitor my power gain over time using a stravistix plugin that even gives me freshness fittness form. 

 

Power is the greatest tool to train with and has benefitted me in a few races where I can plan my attack and just sit threshold and take a breakaway win. 

Stages is great and is definetely one of the best bang for your bucks.

 

Personally I cant ride a bike without a powermeter, I just go mad and its not really something you can get a feel for at all. My stages also read weird power readings like 2000W every ride a few times and this messed with my TSS and stuff. then I could never see what my actual max power was.

My stages broke so the insurance gave me a quark and then the stages just started working again for some reason...

Just going to say it again, best pacing tool and also has contributed to quite a few strava KOMs for me. Especially the long 3min or longer segments. It absalutely transforms your fitness, highly reccomended.

 

last thing is that you can pace any ride because without a powermeter you start your ride wayyy to fast and then fade towards the end. With a powermeter your power can be monitored and adjusted.

 

Also pacing during intervals is absalutely amazing so say my coach gives me 4 x 3min intervals to do then I know according to my threshold I shoud pace them at say 345w and then I can actually hold that for all the intervals and always struggle with the last one. Without a powermeter you cant pace your intervals and always, always start too fast. I have seen when training with friends they ride away from me in the first interval and then in the second and rest I drop them easy just holding the same power as I did the first interval.

Edited November 23, 2017 by JuanLouw

[Dexter-morgan]

I saw, cwc had some 105 pm for just under R5k.

[Craai]

I saw, cwc had some 105 pm for just under R5k.

Always a catch; the deal only applies to silver 170mm cranks

[dawnh100]

Here is my take on powermeters, I have 2. A stages and a quark. 

The stages was great but I had problems with it not reading properly and just not working at all. The batteries also seemed to get used up really really fast like every month I needed to replace one. I still have my Gen 2 stages laying around for later use on a road bike. Stages powermeters do not at all like water, they are not that good at not getting water damage and for a mtb this can be a problem. On the road should be fine. Also the locking rings that close on the battery compartment do get damaged pretty easy.

When buying a stages just make sure you still have the warranty. They are great at solving issues and have amazing customer support.

 

Now I always use my XX1 eagle Quarq. Its great. Easy to replace the battery, accurate and reliable and never enen replaced a batter yet!. I've had the stages die on me due to the battery being flat twice, it ate through batteries I tell you. Stages offer 1 year warranty. Sram/quarq offer 2 years.

 

Hubs: not the most buget thing and can be a huge issue to be rebuild and sent out to be fixed. Also the chainline and chain resistance does affect how much power is sent to the hub so accuracy can be questionable in my opinion.

Pedals: easy to swop between bikes but not 100% accurate

 

my coach uses a sram red Dzero and thats also nice.

 

These are great training tools and I can monitor my power gain over time using a stravistix plugin that even gives me freshness fittness form. 

 

Power is the greatest tool to train with and has benefitted me in a few races where I can plan my attack and just sit threshold and take a breakaway win. 

Stages is great and is definetely one of the best bang for your bucks.

 

Personally I cant ride a bike without a powermeter, I just go mad and its not really something you can get a feel for at all. My stages also read weird power readings like 2000W every ride a few times and this messed with my TSS and stuff. then I could never see what my actual max power was.

My stages broke so the insurance gave me a quark and then the stages just started working again for some reason...

Just going to say it again, best pacing tool and also has contributed to quite a few strava KOMs for me. Especially the long 3min or longer segments. It absalutely transforms your fitness, highly reccomended.

 

last thing is that you can pace any ride because without a powermeter you start your ride wayyy to fast and then fade towards the end. With a powermeter your power can be monitored and adjusted.

 

Also pacing during intervals is absalutely amazing so say my coach gives me 4 x 3min intervals to do then I know according to my threshold I shoud pace them at say 345w and then I can actually hold that for all the intervals and always struggle with the last one. Without a powermeter you cant pace your intervals and always, always start too fast. I have seen when training with friends they ride away from me in the first interval and then in the second and rest I drop them easy just holding the same power as I did the first interval.

This is great, and I fully agree with you - I love my power meter and struggle to pace myself or track progress without.  

Where you recommend me looking for Quarq (perhaps as part of this Black Friday madness?)

[shaper]

Have Stages (Gen 2) on my road bike and Quarq DZero on my TT bike... both work flawless and have never had an issue.  Calibration, firmware updates on both done by respective apps via phone and bluetooth.

 

On road bike meter is great for gauging how far and how long you can go to keep with attacks in races or to stay with the bunch... after 2 years of data analysis I know what I can sustain to stay in the race.

 

On my TT bike is all about pacing and is a power meter is a great way to gauge this and stay as fresh as possible for my tri run to follow.

[Vaughan01]

Stages powermeter experience.

I have 3 stages powermeters:

1.