The Great Wine Thread

[CogitoErgoSum]

I am not sure there is a wine thread here yet....

 

No, not whine... every other thread is a whine thread. I am talking about that red stuff. Or the white stuff... I am talking about proper wine. I am by no means knowledgable about wines. So let us here from the informed and knowledgable on here... which cellars produce the more palatable red and white wine? What year within the different cultivars are the best? What makes you choose one cellar above another? I feel confused standing infront of all those bottles when selecting.

 

I myself prefer a proper full-bodied Shiraz. Merlot tends to be watered down with regards to the hind notes.

 

Let us discuss what makes a good wine... from Pinotage, to Merlot, to Shiraz, to even a good Muscat/Muscadel... The same with the whites...

 

 

 

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[GrumpyOldGuy]

I am not too fond of USA / Canadian Red's but they make excellent white wines, I buy a lot from Lakeridge Winery and as much from San Sebastian, both in Florida, both excellent and Lakeridge has a South African wine maker, which means the taste is similar to SA wines.

 

But anyway I guess SA wines would be more appropriate, I belonged to a few wine clubs over the years and invested quite a lot in wine storage at the Bergkelder, so I tasted quite a lot of different wines, and to be honest, in my opinion, for a nice drinking wine you will have to go very far to beat a good old "Alto Rouge", price and quality wise its very hard to beat.

 

Any of the Rus en Vrede reds are spectacular and they are widely exported, we even get them here, for whites I was fond of the Creation wines, especially their Sauvignon Blanc, also very highly regarded, but to be honest wines are personal, what you like may not suit me and vice versa and price is seldom a good indicator of taste or quality either, you can buy a fairly inexpensive wine and its great, or but a really expensive bottle and feel let down.

 

In SA the Platter guide is very good, take a look at it and select a few of his choices, you will seldom be disappointed.

[Help.Me.]

I am going to follow this thread very closely.... i like KWV Merlot a lot. Started drinking red wine with Boland Kelders 60:40. Cheap and not to bad!! Nederburg Baronne also nice drinking wine, Roodeberg for a treat. It make a big differance if you open the bottle an hour or longer before you drink the wine. Cheers...

[fanievb]

Does Tassies count?

[deanbean]

Does Tassies count?

NO

 

A good Cab, needs another few years in the cellar

 

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[Boerklong]

Montagu Muskadel(red), Van Lovern Colombar(Neils pick) and Ashton Cellar Chenin blanc and Sauvingnon Blanc are some of my favourites.

Red wines I just stick to our local cellar Ashton.

[GrumpyOldGuy]

Does Tassies count?

Ha, Ha, of course, it has a massive fan base, you dont get that kind of following for nothing. 

[GrumpyOldGuy]

I am going to follow this thread very closely.... i like KWV Merlot a lot. Started drinking red wine with Boland Kelders 60:40. Cheap and not to bad!! Nederburg Baronne also nice drinking wine, Roodeberg for a treat. It make a big differance if you open the bottle an hour or longer before you drink the wine. Cheers...

Yes, for a big mass market brand Nederberg makes very good wines, for everyday drinking, and quite a few award winners as well, another brand easily available worldwide and their wines are very well respected. 

[Letum911]

Vrede en Lust's Red Lady is probably one of my all time favorites!! Kasteelberg's Merlot is pretty darn good as well.

 

On the sweeter side I love the Amber Forever from Muratie (the Muratie cellars are spectacular!!)

[CogitoErgoSum]

I have only recently started enjoying wines again. (Did not drink any alcohol for around 13years...)

 

So I am a complete novice. I am completely past that stage in my life of getting hammered. I now enjoy the taste intricacies it offers.

 

Currently I am having a Merlot from Boekenhoutskloof Wine Estate (Porcupine Ridge) and the Muscadel from Rietvallei Wine Estate in Robertson. The one Shiraz from Woolworths didn't hurt either...

 

Is there a certain area (due to climate, type of grapes etc) that produce a better quality over others?

 

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[Fruity]

I'm more into beer than wine, but when I do drink a red wine, I don't mind some Tassies, or recently, been having a few glasses of Nederburg Baronne with the wifey.

 

 

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[Letum911]

I have only recently started enjoying wines again. (Did not drink any alcohol for around 13years...)

 

So I am a complete novice. I am completely past that stage in my life of getting hammered. I now enjoy the taste intricacies it offers.

 

Currently I am having a Merlot from Boekenhoutskloof Wine Estate (Porcupine Ridge) and the Muscadel from Rietvallei Wine Estate in Robertson. The one Shiraz from Woolworths didn't hurt either...

 

Is there a certain area (due to climate, type of grapes etc) that produce a better quality over others?

 

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All personal preference. Some more acidic, sweeter, etc. I have found that the Merlot from Stellenbosch is a lot more bland than from Swartland area. However the farms in "Hemel en Aarde" just outside Hermanus produce brilliant wines, a lot stronger (more bold) on the palate.

[Underachiever]

A great thread... and long overdue.

 

@ Deanbean.  Paradyskloof makes a stunning Grenache Rose.

[Spinnekop]

Learned a new word over the weekend.

Nogal from a Swiss girl (SA origin)

 

Porseleinberg.

 

But I heard its like stupid expensive. 

[Ed-Zulu]

If I can find some I like buying the Darling Cellars Black Granite Shiraz, one of my favourite affordable wines.

 

I stick to reds as I find whites too fruity, but out of respect for a host who has no red, I'll drink the whites on offer.

[Ed-Zulu]

Does Tassies count?

Tassies in a tall glass, loaded with ice on a hot day, makes the wine snobs toes curl and my taste buds dance with joy.

 

Very many moons ago there was a "joll" outside Pretoria called the Farm Inn, loaded with students and other undesirables, where Tassies was sold by the bottle! Good memories!