Odinson Posted January 23, 2018 Share also, seeing as we're chatting sucrose, fructose etc, sucrose is metabolised by (pretty much) the entire body, Fructose... only the liver metabolises fructose. so in an 80kg person, 80kgs will metabolise sucrose, but only 1kg (i'm not an autopsy specialist), so in a 50/50 mix of sucrose/fructose, your liver is going to work pretty hard. which brings us on (quite neatly I think) to fatty liver disease... so if that's your thing, fruit will definitely help Perhaps you should go make a stop at your litter box, because you're clearly full of ****. Please provide peer-reviewed sources proving that the consumption of fruit causes non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. Some info for you on fructose: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/if-fructose-is-bad-what-about-fruit/ https://youtu.be/sHEJE6I-Yl4 Fatty liver disease: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/prevent-non-alcoholic-fatty-liver-disease/ https://youtu.be/N2UDc0WRXvQ Take the time to read through the literature - it's all linked on the website. Zatopek and Fruity 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatopek Posted January 24, 2018 Share Nice. What is that? Sent from my SM-N910F using TapatalkPisang Goreng is "oil fried banana" (Guess where Afrikaans got the word piesang from) Bananas are coated in flour and then fried in the oil. Crispy when fresh. In this case the flour had peanut crumbs in as well - heavenly Bananas here is the small & "ugly"- but a lot sweeter & tastier compared to the pretty, big & tasteless Woollies banana. Just out of the photo is another favourite of mine "Cekodok Pisang" - banana bread balls fried in oil. Awesome energy balls for cycling. Beesrib and BigDL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatopek Posted January 24, 2018 Share Last night's ride was the first ride in a long time where it felt like I'm moving in the right direction with my weight & fitness. It felt good. Also a good motivator to keep going with this. Beesrib, Beefy, Escapee.. and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beesrib Posted January 24, 2018 Share Pisang Goreng is "oil fried banana" (Guess where Afrikaans got the word piesang from) Bananas are coated in flour and then fried in the oil. Crispy when fresh. In this case the flour had peanut crumbs in as well - heavenly Bananas here is the small & "ugly"- but a lot sweeter & tastier compared to the pretty, big & tasteless Woollies banana. Just out of the photo is another favourite of mine "Cekodok Pisang" - banana bread balls fried in oil. Awesome energy balls for cycling.A wow sound lekke. Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Posted January 24, 2018 Share well, you'd think so. however, if you're insulin resistant, or T2 diabetic, then fruit is probably not doing you any favours. it'll cause BG spikes and resulting insulin spikes. buuuut... if you're not insulin resistant or T2, then fruit IS goodOh, my step dad is a type 2 diabetic, and he eats pawpaws and mangos. The doctor said he could. Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechatnoir Posted January 24, 2018 Share Perhaps you should go make a stop at your litter box, because you're clearly full of ****. Please provide peer-reviewed sources proving that the consumption of fruit causes non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. Some info for you on fructose: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/if-fructose-is-bad-what-about-fruit/ https://youtu.be/sHEJE6I-Yl4 Fatty liver disease: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/prevent-non-alcoholic-fatty-liver-disease/ https://youtu.be/N2UDc0WRXvQ Take the time to read through the literature - it's all linked on the website. perhaps you just need a biscuit an a lie-down? Also, next time don't let your finger go through the derailleur when the chain is spinning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted January 24, 2018 Share What Myles said. The term is 'brain fog'... used to get it quite badly. Felt like my vision was closing in. I now have a large container of salt on my desk and have about 1/4 teaspoon every 2 hours or so. Keep hydrated, and you'll be fine. Then again, I have a tub of coconut oil on my desk too, and have 2-3 tablespoons a day. Tastes great (it's the luxurious tasty one) and I can skip all meals at workHmmm, the UPPER safe limit for salt intake is around 6g/d (1 1/4 teaspoon). I cannot see how adding this much salt to a diet can be healthy, especially in a group of individuals that are already grouped at at-riks (due to our weight). Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and BigDL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted January 24, 2018 Share also, seeing as we're chatting sucrose, fructose etc, sucrose is metabolised by (pretty much) the entire body, Fructose... only the liver metabolises fructose. so in an 80kg person, 80kgs will metabolise sucrose, but only 1kg (i'm not an autopsy specialist), so in a 50/50 mix of sucrose/fructose, your liver is going to work pretty hard. which brings us on (quite neatly I think) to fatty liver disease... so if that's your thing, fruit will definitely helpSo you are saying that ingesting complex carbs that has a slower rate of absorption and release into the bloodstream, does not cause a significant 1st phase insulin release, and genereally causes a lower and slower insulin response is bad for you because it will lead to fatty liver disease? BUTSimple, refined sugars that causes significant rises in blood glucose, big 1st and 2nd phase insulin spikes is good for you...? Sniffie and Andrew Steer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoli Posted January 24, 2018 Share I am ashamed to say (not really) that I prefer ricoffy or Nescafé to filter coffee. My wife laughs because when we’re at mates for dinner, I will always ask for instant coffee rather than the fancy stuff. Sent from my iPad using TapatalkYou can just say you don't like coffee. Nothing wrong with that (I think). BigDL and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni Posted January 24, 2018 Share I am ashamed to say (not really) that I prefer ricoffy or Nescafé to filter coffee. I must agree that filter coffee made badly is just awful. I get to work after 8 only, and the pot of coffee gets made at about 6:30 - I'm not drinking that when I get to work, I'll rather have tea. Bean to cup though - I'm worth it! white tiger and BigDL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Posted January 24, 2018 Share I must agree that filter coffee made badly is just awful. I get to work after 8 only, and the pot of coffee gets made at about 6:30 - I'm not drinking that when I get to work, I'll rather have tea. Bean to cup though - I'm worth it! We've only just started with filter coffee, well, filter coffee at home. Before it was off to a café almost every weekend for coffee. We still visit coffee shops on occasion, but surprisingly enough, the best coffee I had was at the local Ster Kinekor - that coffee, I smaak it stikent. Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk BigDL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted January 24, 2018 Share We've only just started with filter coffee, well, filter coffee at home. Before it was off to a café almost every weekend for coffee. We still visit coffee shops on occasion, but surprisingly enough, the best coffee I had was at the local Ster Kinekor - that coffee, I smaak it stikent. Sent from my EVA-L09 using TapatalkDo yourself a favour and get a moka pot. FAR better than filter, significantly cheaper than an espresso machine. Fruity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worriesnot Posted January 24, 2018 Share Hogwash. Fruit is perfect for both preventing (as part of a larger whole food plant-based diet) T2 diabetes, as well as part of a diet for such diabetics. The trick is to eat whole fruits, especially those high in antioxidants, and to keep track of your carb intake from the fruit. Avoid fruit juices, especially rubbish like Minute Maid and the like. 100%Whole fruits carry a low glycemic index. If you squeeze the juice out of that exact same fruit and discard the very important and healthy fibres, then that same juice is very bad for you and will raise your blood sugar.For example - the juice from a single orange is way more bad for a T2 diabetic that chowing the whole damn thing.For T2 diabetics: fruit juices, dried fruits and canned fruits = not good and basically just concentrated sugars. *disclaimer: I am T2 diabetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Posted January 24, 2018 Share Do yourself a favour and get a moka pot. FAR better than filter, significantly cheaper than an espresso machine.Okay, then I'll keep my moka pot one side of the kitchen, and the missus can keep her filter coffee machine on the other side of the kitchen [emoji23] Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk BigDL and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted January 24, 2018 Share Guys, for the love of god and all that which is holy, please do not heed lechatnoir's little dietary/nutrition 'advices', especially if you fall into a at-risk category. His comments are factually incorrect, misleading and not based on any accepted nutrition research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Posted January 24, 2018 Share Guys, for the love of god and all that which is holy, please do not heed lechatnoir's little dietary/nutrition 'advices', especially if you fall into a at-risk category. His comments are factually incorrect, misleading and not based on any accepted nutrition research.I take his advice with a pinch of salt, pun intended. Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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