RiverInTheRoad Posted January 29, 2018 Posted January 29, 2018 So I want to build some wider wheels for my Jeffsy. The stock wheelset has been faultless but I have the upgrade itch and would like to go wider. Current build plan:DT Swiss XM481 rims 525g for 29 inchDT Swiss Straightpull 350 hubs, 6 boltDT Swiss Competition Straightpull spokesThe above build is a immitation of the DT XM 1501 wheelset using 350 hubs rather than 240's. Above build with 28 spokes +- 1863 gAbove build with 32 spokes +- 1911 g Weighing up whether to go for 28 hole or 32 hole. Current wheelset (DT Swiss M1900) is 28 spoke and is still true and stiff, quite impressed to be honest. I am leaning to 28... Wheelset bult up will be around R7k with the current exchange rate. Am I better off getting a set of Flow's on Hope from oom Chris?
dirtypot Posted January 29, 2018 Posted January 29, 2018 I'd recommend J bend spokes rather than straight pull. Far easier to get spares, cheaper and less fiddly to work with. In my opinion, straight pull spokes have zero advantage but lots of drawbacks.
Quagga Posted January 29, 2018 Posted January 29, 2018 At 7 K I would rather look at Hope Pro4 and ZTR Arch from CWC
The MTBer Posted January 29, 2018 Posted January 29, 2018 Depending on your weight I would go for the 32h, just more spokes and a little bit stiffer I believe
Bos Posted January 29, 2018 Posted January 29, 2018 why don't you just upgrade your rims? Arch EX,WTB KOM etc... probably cost around R2800 max
RiverInTheRoad Posted January 29, 2018 Author Posted January 29, 2018 Straightpull has a weight saving (hub) over J-bend and I prefer the look of them. The Arch rims are too narrow to justify the upgrade, Flow has a weight penalty and the Flow rim is from my research inferior to the new DT XM 481 rim from a reliability perspective, as a bonus the XM 481 is 30mm internal compared to 29 for the Flow. My mass is 85kg, so the 32 hole might be worthwile I did consider going rims only, however the old rims will not be worth much whereas a wheelset would be sold easier. The price difference is not that much when you consider the sale of the old wheelset. Thanks for input sofar guys
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted January 29, 2018 Posted January 29, 2018 Straightpull has a weight saving (hub) over J-bend and I prefer the look of them. The Arch rims are too narrow to justify the upgrade, Flow has a weight penalty and the Flow rim is from my research inferior to the new DT XM 481 rim from a reliability perspective, as a bonus the XM 481 is 30mm internal compared to 29 for the Flow. My mass is 85kg, so the 32 hole might be worthwile I did consider going rims only, however the old rims will not be worth much whereas a wheelset would be sold easier. The price difference is not that much when you consider the sale of the old wheelset. Thanks for input sofar guysAnother option - the WTBi35 from see arrrr see. VERY impressed with mine.
droo Posted January 29, 2018 Posted January 29, 2018 3 things - one, if you're riding that Jeffsy anywhere near like it's meant to be ridden go 32H. Second, the Flow on Hope from Oom Chris come with straight gauge spokes. Do with this info what you will. Last - if you're going straight pull, buy some extra spokes. (Also, brass nipples. Alu nipples are the devil's spawn.)
RiverInTheRoad Posted January 29, 2018 Author Posted January 29, 2018 Another option - the WTBi35 from see arrrr see. VERY impressed with mine. I have hear great things about the i35 rims. They are however too wide for my tire goals and wheeleset mass goals.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted January 29, 2018 Posted January 29, 2018 I have hear great things about the i35 rims. They are however too wide for my tire goals and wheeleset mass goals.they also have the i30's, and Droo has the Kore 3.0's which are doing pretty well on a mate's bike.
GrahamS2 Posted January 29, 2018 Posted January 29, 2018 I have hear great things about the i35 rims. They are however too wide for my tire goals and wheeleset mass goals.Get a set of carbon wheels from XMCarbon Speed, in whatever width and spec you need. They'll build them on whatever hubs you like and the pricing is pretty decent.
RiverInTheRoad Posted January 29, 2018 Author Posted January 29, 2018 Now things are getting interesting... @ David Marshall please elaborate on straightpull issues? @Droo, I am aware of the cheapass spokes that CWC uses, not my preferred option. And every moegoe on the mountain has ZTR rims on Hope hubs. I RARELY bottom my Jeffsy at the rear so I am probably not riding it as I should...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted January 29, 2018 Posted January 29, 2018 Now things are getting interesting... @ David Marshall please elaborate on straightpull issues? @Droo, I am aware of the cheapass spokes that CWC uses, not my preferred option. And every moegoe on the mountain has ZTR rims on Hope hubs. I RARELY bottom my Jeffsy at the rear so I am probably not riding it as I should...If CWC is using straight gauge spokes, stay away.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted January 29, 2018 Posted January 29, 2018 Get a set of carbon wheels from XMCarbon Speed, in whatever width and spec you need. They'll build them on whatever hubs you like and the pricing is pretty decent.DON'T POKE THE BEAR...
DC Carbon Posted January 29, 2018 Posted January 29, 2018 Now things are getting interesting... @ David Marshall please elaborate on straightpull issues? @Droo, I am aware of the cheapass spokes that CWC uses, not my preferred option. And every moegoe on the mountain has ZTR rims on Hope hubs. I RARELY bottom my Jeffsy at the rear so I am probably not riding it as I should... Now things are getting interesting... @ David Marshall please elaborate on straightpull issues? @Droo, I am aware of the cheapass spokes that CWC uses, not my preferred option. And every moegoe on the mountain has ZTR rims on Hope hubs. I RARELY bottom my Jeffsy at the rear so I am probably not riding it as I should... There's no issue with straight pull hubs and spokes. DT Swiss are very good hubs but with the $/Rand exchange rate they are also very expensive. You can get as good but lighter alu hubs at a better price because of the high Rand/$ exchange rate What advice are you looking for?What is your weight?What are the riding conditions e.g. marathon, XC or trail?What is your Jeffsy?
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