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Homeschoolers Not Welcome at Spur MTB League


Shaun Green

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found this curius given that HS kids make up less than 1% of participants, but 100% of commentators on the Spur fb.

 

Home schoolers are negatively affected by this. Therefor its logical to expect a stronger reaction from people who care for them.

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Nope. That gif is sarcasm

 

Edit: And all the ratings have been removed from their FB page.

Oh ok....so no spur for the kids tonight.Seems a bit selfish but whatever rows your boat.

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I found this curius given that HS kids make up less than 1% of participants, but 100% of commentators on the Spur fb.

Duh! You can't work that one out?

Coming back to a previous post of mine, if you have double standards that alienate enough people to hurt your business then you have made a bad decision.

But surely an insignificantly small < 1% of kiddies being told to ****off is not going to impact your business in one little bit, so why is everyone so concerned by one or two inconsequential HomeSchooler posts on FB and the Hub?

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Did you and your HS fb groups actively campaign and organize to target the Spur series fb page, irrespective of whether the commentators were parents of actual participant kids?

 

I am curious to see if Mr Green actually answers this

Send him a PM if you so keen

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What is also interesting, is that because of the response of some people, to the response of other people not wanting to see the other side, of either side, homeschooling parents and homeschooling kids are now going to be even bigger targets as "those people"

 

#utternonsense!

 

What has been very interesting to read is the stigma attached to homeschooling and it is just sad.

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Ha ha ha......

Hello Grumpy

 

From your Bots days, any fuel between maun and kasane ? Need to decide ion how many jerry tanks to take. Going via the usual campsites.

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What is also interesting, is that because of the response of some people, to the response of other people not wanting to see the other side, of either side, homeschooling parents and homeschooling kids are now going to be even bigger targets as "those people"

 

#utternonsense!

 

What has been very interesting to read is the stigma attached to homeschooling and it is just sad.

There is no stigma attached to Home Schooling (HS), but rather there is some very clear concerns of cyclists who have actually read the purpose of the INTER SCHOOL League, and have been involved with SCHOOL SPORT, and been involved with lobbying GOVERNMENT which indicate that the attitude of a select number of HS parents towards an initiative (That was not meant for HS) is very damaging to the sport in general.

 

Seriously, this whole thing is like listening to a vegan complaining that they were not invited to a braai.

 

The organisers developed the league to access the sporting infrastructure and facilities of the High Schools.  Where there were a shortage of school support (everywhere other than Gauteng) they widened their target group to include primary schools and "gasp" HS, but only as a concession. 

 

It seems that the only ire that is directed to HS parents is their inability to read with comprehension, or their inability to accept what they fully understand.  The OP is 100% correct the league was not meant for everyone, and not everyone is welcome.  The organisers do not need to be apologetic about that and, certainly in Gauteng, they do not need to change it to accommodate a sliver of the population that has already been accommodated elsewhere.

 

Sorry, HS parents need to explain to their kids that in life there are choices which come with consequences.  (I can give you a number of these, like soccer is not played at Afrikaans Schools ext.)

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There is no stigma attached to Home Schooling (HS), but rather there is some very clear concerns of cyclists who have actually read the purpose of the INTER SCHOOL League, and have been involved with SCHOOL SPORT, and been involved with lobbying GOVERNMENT which indicate that the attitude of a select number of HS parents towards an initiative (That was not meant for HS) is very damaging to the sport in general.

 

Seriously, this whole thing is like listening to a vegan complaining that they were not invited to a braai.

 

The organisers developed the league to access the sporting infrastructure and facilities of the High Schools.  Where there were a shortage of school support (everywhere other than Gauteng) they widened their target group to include primary schools and "gasp" HS, but only as a concession. 

 

It seems that the only ire that is directed to HS parents is their inability to read with comprehension, or their inability to accept what they fully understand.  The OP is 100% correct the league was not meant for everyone, and not everyone is welcome.  The organisers do not need to be apologetic about that and, certainly in Gauteng, they do not need to change it to accommodate a sliver of the population that has already been accommodated elsewhere.

 

Sorry, HS parents need to explain to their kids that in life there are choices which come with consequences.  (I can give you a number of these, like soccer is not played at Afrikaans Schools ext.)

.......... I managed to change my reply to a series of dots in a neat little line.

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Duh! You can't work that one out?

Coming back to a previous post of mine, if you have double standards that alienate enough people to hurt your business then you have made a bad decision.

But surely an insignificantly small < 1% of kiddies being told to ****off is not going to impact your business in one little bit, so why is everyone so concerned by one or two inconsequential HomeSchooler posts on FB and the Hub?

 

less than 1% of participants in the league are home schooled.  100% of the comments on the Spur fb page were HS.  Spur did not tell anyone to F-off.  But well done, the quality of your comment displays the same mentality that I am taking to task - see below

 

 

, yet it seems that the HS communi

Home schoolers are negatively affected by this. Therefor its logical to expect a stronger reaction from people who care for them.

 

Is this the same logic that underlies poor people who resort to service delivery protests and burn clinics, libraries and public transport? 

 

They also form part of a marginalised sector of society, and they are discriminated by the lack of services, and then do harm or threaten to do harm to the scarse resources that they do have?  Or would you say these people that destroy the little that they do have are fools and idiots?

 

There is no difference between these folk and and gang of homeschoolers attacking the Spur, which is a resource in the youth cycling space, and a desperately valuable and unique one.  These people saw fit to attack and threatened to destroy with no regard for the broader consequences.

 

I started out sympathetic to the cause of the OP, but more and more it became clear that the HS people have a F-you attitude when their VERY narrow needs are not met, and are happy to bring the whole system down because THEIR demands WILL be met, come hell or high water.

 

Here's another example for 6th Mass Extinction to maybe understand: 

 

If your kid's school has 100 children in his or her  grade, and the parents of ONE kid asked the school to change something material in the way it operated to accommodate their very specific and unique need, what would you do?  Listen, and try to be sympathetic, right?

 

And if they did not get exactly what they wanted, or in a different time frame, they then mobilised an outside mob of parents who had NOTHING to do with your kid's school, and campaigned and rioted and threatened to burn your school down because their ONE kid (1%, remember), and all  the sympathetic parents from outside (with NO connection to your school, remember) made such a sh1tshow that the school merely gave in and said, "fine", but please just don't burn the school down".  How would you feel about that ONE kid in your school, AND the group that rallied around her?

 

It is in this light that I now find little sympathy for the HS cause, because threatening to break it down for everybody is a proper k@k way to make friends and influence people.

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Hello Grumpy

 

From your Bots days, any fuel between maun and kasane ? Need to decide ion how many jerry tanks to take. Going via the usual campsites.

If you are doing Moremi Savuti and Chobe the answer is no

Neither rely on water.All on your own  :thumbup:

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