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David Marshall

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   Never used to think about the shifting, just shifted and moved along ..... now though I am a big fan of the robust feeling shifts with SRAM

Would have thought your response would have been along the lines of no gears is the way to go.

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Not so much a problem now, thank goodness for brake tech evolving, but backpedal brake on one of my childhood bikes. How many times I had to jump off or drive(crash) into something just to stop when flying down a steep tar road when the chain comes off.

 

I have also been initiated to the back-pedal school of cycling. How is it that as a rite of passage, one always manages to drop the chain when descending? And only then. I remember once I was coming down a rather steepish hill and had to drift and drop the bike on the pavement (luckily it was grass) because a bus decided to cross the road ahead of me, shortly after me dropping the chain (yet again).

 

Scary at the time, funny now.

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Not bike related . . . . . But just one of my pet peeves.  

 

There should be a  building law against building a residential house where the walls end higher than the roof cladding. 

Sooner or later the thing starts leaking there with the  water running down the wall inside the house. 

And the plaster always starts cracking on top  those  exposed walls after a few years as a result of weather exposure. 

Where is it needed between units for fire safety  regulations, the top of that wall should also be covered with  roof cladding.

   

Yes, you can say stuff like doing it properly and doing maintenance and what about individual taste and all those things.  

 

But why in hell build a flaw into your building that someone will have to redo or maintain later?

That is just piss-poor design. 

 

The roof cladding must cover all the building walls if viewed from the above, problem solved. 

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Not bike related . . . . . But just one of my pet peeves.  

 

There should be a  building law against building a residential house where the walls end higher than the roof cladding. 

Sooner or later the thing starts leaking there with the  water running down the wall inside the house. 

And the plaster always starts cracking on top  those  exposed walls after a few years as a result of weather exposure. 

Where is it needed between units for fire safety  regulations, the top of that wall should also be covered with  roof cladding.

   

Yes, you can say stuff like doing it properly and doing maintenance and what about individual taste and all those things.  

 

But why in hell build a flaw into your building that someone will have to redo or maintain later?

That is just piss-poor design. 

 

The roof cladding must cover all the building walls if viewed from the above, problem solved. 

just waterproof the bloody thing ... if you take that same mindset into life then we should all be ridding on permatubes or solid rubber tyres so as not to get puncture :P

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Not bike related . . . . . But just one of my pet peeves.  

 

There should be a  building law against building a residential house where the walls end higher than the roof cladding. 

Sooner or later the thing starts leaking there with the  water running down the wall inside the house. 

And the plaster always starts cracking on top  those  exposed walls after a few years as a result of weather exposure. 

Where is it needed between units for fire safety  regulations, the top of that wall should also be covered with  roof cladding.

   

Yes, you can say stuff like doing it properly and doing maintenance and what about individual taste and all those things.  

 

But why in hell build a flaw into your building that someone will have to redo or maintain later?

That is just piss-poor design. 

 

The roof cladding must cover all the building walls if viewed from the above, problem solved. 

Usually see that in townhouses and semi-detached houses.I was told that it was to prevent fire spreading through the roof.

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Usually see that in townhouses and semi-detached houses.I was told that it was to prevent fire spreading through the roof.

personally I really dislike a hipped roof with no gables ... the house just looks so flat dead ... with a gable end it just carries the roof better for me....but this is an aesthetic thingiemajig thing.

 

The tops of the parapets or gables should have a layer of water proofing over it, and if you do a proper job on the roof and wall interface, you would/should do a flexible waterproofing flashing with a rigid (Alum is better) cover flashing over this again to protect it from the elements ... then what a lot of contractors do not do is create a groove to tuck the water proofing or flashing into again.

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Definitely not Bike Hub!!!!!!

Anyone see all the polls pop up now in Chinese writing. Just as soon as they came up they were gone. Well done admin.

Welllll..... (that’s a long well)

I can think back to at least one bikehub “design” change that was pretty poor....

????

 

That being the separation of non bike related chit chat topics from the main preview screen so they are not visible unless you login

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personally I really dislike a hipped roof with no gables ... the house just looks so flat dead ... with a gable end it just carries the roof better for me....but this is an aesthetic thingiemajig thing.

 

The tops of the parapets or gables should have a layer of water proofing over it, and if you do a proper job on the roof and wall interface, you would/should do a flexible waterproofing flashing with a rigid (Alum is better) cover flashing over this again to protect it from the elements ... then what a lot of contractors do not do is create a groove to tuck the water proofing or flashing into again.

You're 100% right. 

 

I know it can be done right.

 

But my OCD notice  it in most houses and complexes with  such walls and gables.

 

It is more a  thing a poor/cheap-ass/don't-know-how  work done by the developers  and contractors.

They  do sub-standard work because  the problem usually surface some years down the line after they have got their money and are long gone. 

 

Thus,  because I know what's coming,  I avoid houses designed like that, or houses with flat roofs.  

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personally I really dislike a hipped roof with no gables ... the house just looks so flat dead ... with a gable end it just carries the roof better for me....but this is an aesthetic thingiemajig thing.

 

The tops of the parapets or gables should have a layer of water proofing over it, and if you do a proper job on the roof and wall interface, you would/should do a flexible waterproofing flashing with a rigid (Alum is better) cover flashing over this again to protect it from the elements ... then what a lot of contractors do not do is create a groove to tuck the water proofing or flashing into again.

 

This is where theory and practice don't always meet....

 

Sometimes I think parapets is a conspiracy by waterproofers to ensure return work :ph34r:  :ph34r:

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personally I really dislike a hipped roof with no gables ... the house just looks so flat dead ... with a gable end it just carries the roof better for me....but this is an aesthetic thingiemajig thing.

 

The tops of the parapets or gables should have a layer of water proofing over it, and if you do a proper job on the roof and wall interface, you would/should do a flexible waterproofing flashing with a rigid (Alum is better) cover flashing over this again to protect it from the elements ... then what a lot of contractors do not do is create a groove to tuck the water proofing or flashing into again.

 

 

...and then as soon as that darn soufeaster starts howling, that flashing starts flapping away like a howler monkey on flakka...

 

That get's my tits in a tizz, everytime. And my wife works for a roof tiling factory, and she too gets a bee in her bonnet about the contractors doing such a stellarly k@k job....aarghh

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...and then as soon as that darn soufeaster starts howling, that flashing starts flapping away like a howler monkey on flakka...

 

That get's my tits in a tizz, everytime. And my wife works for a roof tiling factory, and she too gets a bee in her bonnet about the contractors doing such a stellarly k@k job....aarghh

clearly there are tons of K@K@ roofing contractors out there ... fortunately we don't use any of them :P

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clearly there are tons of K@K@ roofing contractors out there ... fortunately we don't use any of them :P

 

We were not that lucky...  This was a very reputable roofing co - sent their C-team out to us...

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