Doubling of cholesterol levels in only 11 months - chlorinated pools?

[Karman de Lange]

☺ yes, ok, my portions of carbs, and skinless chicken increased ☺ …

 

Why skinless?   Its currently the good thing to eat, just google enough and enough "doctors" will tell you so

 

Problem with doing "diets" is  they are correct today, bad tomorrow...

 

I would suggest to experiment.  I had high blood pressure issue last year .. turned out to be my Salted crisps every Sunday in front of the TV   , now I only have niknaks and blood pressure below "normal". (well, its the  only thing that I changed)

[V12man]

My LDL cholesterol levels have been 2 to 2.1 average etc for many years, until recently (last 11 months) when it jumped to above 4.0, which pushed my Total cholesterol to above 6.0

 

 

All the studies I have seen on chlorinated water consumption and cholesterol are largely discredited - but I suppose there is a small chance.

 

More likely you need to be retested to confirm your test results as a first step.

[EddieV]

If your diet has not changed, could also be cortisol related. I would say it is hormonal more than anything else. 

 

If you are gulping down water while swimming, work on correcting that as well.

 

Thx,the doctor did question my stress levels too ... and that was another reason for wanting to redo the test in 3 month's time as I have recently had a stressfull time at the office .. I do hope it was that.

As for gulping down gallons when gasping for air ... as I'm a beginner in terms of swimming .... I have definitely struggled with that too .. especially when tiring. That made me think that the chlorine was the culprit. If studies found chlorine in drink water to effect cholesterol levels, how much more would the high content of chlorine in swimming pools not effect my cholesterol.

[EddieV]

The following had me started on all this:

 

 

 

Mark Spitz(1972 Olympic swimming champion): In my early training days, I had my cholesterol levels checked regularly. Even then, they were a little elevated - around 210 or 220, which in that day was considered okay, but my doctor recommended we monitor it.

When I elected to make a comeback at age 38, I weighed 220 pounds and my cholesterol was 227. Three months of training later - after working out four-and-a-half hours a day and eating a healthy diet - my cholesterol was 317. It was pretty clear my diet and exercise weren't causing it. Rather, I had a genetic predisposition on my mother's side for high cholesterol.

 

And ....

 

The cause of death of Norwegian swimmer: Dale Oen. - cholesterol

 

These made me think that there might be more to chlorine and cholesterol than we are made to believe.

 

 

As for now I will attempt to only do my swims at Silvermine dam, or in the sea. And then go for another check up in 3 month's time.

Obviously it won't be a definitive result as I will also be checking my carb's cholesterol content, and try to lower my stress levels.

 

I was hoping to find other swimmers with high cholesterol levels to see if there was a correlation. (And whether they used chlorinated pools or open water for training)

[MTBeer]

The following had me started on all this:

 

 

 

Mark Spitz(1972 Olympic swimming champion): In my early training days, I had my cholesterol levels checked regularly. Even then, they were a little elevated - around 210 or 220, which in that day was considered okay, but my doctor recommended we monitor it.

When I elected to make a comeback at age 38, I weighed 220 pounds and my cholesterol was 227. Three months of training later - after working out four-and-a-half hours a day and eating a healthy diet - my cholesterol was 317. It was pretty clear my diet and exercise weren't causing it. Rather, I had a genetic predisposition on my mother's side for high cholesterol.

 

And ....

 

The cause of death of Norwegian swimmer: Dale Oen. - cholesterol

 

These made me think that there might be more to chlorine and cholesterol than we are made to believe.

 

 

As for now I will attempt to only do my swims at Silvermine dam, or in the sea. And then go for another check up in 3 month's time.

Obviously it won't be a definitive result as I will also be checking my carb's cholesterol content, and try to lower my stress levels.

 

I was hoping to find other swimmers with high cholesterol levels to see if there was a correlation. (And whether they used chlorinated pools or open water for training)

I'm not sure you can die from cholesterol?

[The Ouzo]

The following had me started on all this:

 

 

 

Mark Spitz(1972 Olympic swimming champion): In my early training days, I had my cholesterol levels checked regularly. Even then, they were a little elevated - around 210 or 220, which in that day was considered okay, but my doctor recommended we monitor it.

When I elected to make a comeback at age 38, I weighed 220 pounds and my cholesterol was 227. Three months of training later - after working out four-and-a-half hours a day and eating a healthy diet - my cholesterol was 317. It was pretty clear my diet and exercise weren't causing it. Rather, I had a genetic predisposition on my mother's side for high cholesterol.

 

And ....

 

The cause of death of Norwegian swimmer: Dale Oen. - cholesterol

 

These made me think that there might be more to chlorine and cholesterol than we are made to believe.

 

 

As for now I will attempt to only do my swims at Silvermine dam, or in the sea. And then go for another check up in 3 month's time.

Obviously it won't be a definitive result as I will also be checking my carb's cholesterol content, and try to lower my stress levels.

 

I was hoping to find other swimmers with high cholesterol levels to see if there was a correlation. (And whether they used chlorinated pools or open water for training)

talk about a long shot. by that reasoning, based on the nearly yearly death from heart attack of an argus rider, riding the argus causes heart attacks.

[EddieV]

I know it sounds ridiculous ... even my partner told me not mention my theory out there.

 

But I don't know how many swimmers might be receiving medication for high cholesterol? And maybe it was never a genetic predisposition, but brought on by the high chlorine content in pools ....

 

just maybe

[V12man]

I know it sounds ridiculous ... even my partner told me not mention my theory out there.

 

But I don't know how many swimmers might be receiving medication for high cholesterol? And maybe it was never a genetic predisposition, but brought on by the high chlorine content in pools ....

 

just maybe

If you mentioned high chlorine levels in pools being associated with Exercise induced asthma, then yes - this is pretty well documented - but chlorine and cholesterol....

 

I would get your blood retested asap - your numbers would not make sense to have LDL double so quickly - especially with an increase in exercise levels (an assumption on my part that they have gone up and not down with the swimming)

[EddieV]

If you mentioned high chlorine levels in pools being associated with Exercise induced asthma, then yes - this is pretty well documented - but chlorine and cholesterol....

 

I would get your blood retested asap - your numbers would not make sense to have LDL double so quickly - especially with an increase in exercise levels (an assumption on my part that they have gone up and not down with the swimming)

I will get it checked out. And my HDL levels is also lower which also correlates to Price's theory.

 

 

 

An extract from Dr Price's book:

 

 

Our modern lifestyle has paved the way for the epidemic of heart disease, Most municipal water is contaminated with pharmaceutical drugs, fluoride, BPA, and chlorine. Chlorine-tainted water changes the preferred HDL cholesterol into LDL cholesterol. creates free radicals inside the body that require more anti-oxidant vitamins to neutralize, and it destroys fatty acids that are needed by the heart. According to the book, Coronaries Cholesterol Chlorine by Dr. Joseph M, price, chlorination was first suspected Of causing heart disease during the Korean War, because the men who had canteens with the highest amounts of chlorine also had the greatest damage to their arteries, Physically fit soldiers in their twenties had arteries reminiscent of their seventy-year-old grandfathers.

 

"Chlorine is the greatest crippler and kil of modern times. While it prevented epidemics of one disease, it was creating another. Two decades ago, after the start of chlorinating our drinking worer in 1904, the presemr epidemic of heart trouble, cancer and senility began.

— Dr. Joseph M_ Price

[G.S.W]

Why?

Where's this information from?

Reduced my cholesterol from 6.8 to 4.6 in a week, take it daily instead of statin's.

[MTB-More]

Just going to leave this here

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/the-cholesterol-myth-that_b_676817.html

 

TL:DR

 

High Cholesterol is not a indication of bad health and is needed for your body to function properly. My best guess would be your increased exercise has ramped up your cholesterol production to carry viral minerals and "steroids" to your muscles to help with the new exercise regime and recovery...

 

Also the Sun converts cholesterol on your skin to Vitamin D. So it might just be a deficiency in certain minerals or vitamins. Maybe look at a vitamin and mineral booster. Something like MinaMino 30s caps works great for me

 

BUT I am not a doctor and I had high cholesterol too and it fluctuates with me no matter what I do or dont do.

[EddieV]

 

... continuing ....

 

He found that the highly reactive nature of the chlorine molecule scars the arterial intima [the inner lining of the artery]. The body protects itself by painting a thin film of cholesterol over the damaged area. It's not the cholesterol that kills, it's the continual need for protection against the scars that eventually gets out of hand."

[EddieV]

Just going to leave this here

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/the-cholesterol-myth-that_b_676817.html

 

TL:DR

 

High Cholesterol is not a indication of bad health and is needed for your body to function properly. My best guess would be your increased exercise has ramped up your cholesterol production to carry viral minerals and "steroids" to your muscles to help with the new exercise regime and recovery...

 

Also the Sun converts cholesterol on your skin to Vitamin D. So it might just be a deficiency in certain minerals or vitamins. Maybe look at a vitamin and mineral booster. Something like MinaMino 30s caps works great for me

 

BUT I am not a doctor and I had high cholesterol too and it fluctuates with me no matter what I do or dont do.

 

Thank you ... very informative article. The issue though is that my good cholesterol HDL went down, and the bad one LDL up.

[Odinson]

Holy fuckballs the pseudoscience bull**** on this thread is next level.

[MTB-More]

Thank you ... very informative article. The issue though is that my good cholesterol HDL went down, and the bad one LDL up.

 

Both are just proteins. There are many reasons for both to fluctuate explained in the article and as just a LDL and HDL does not say much 

[worriesnot]

Bit of a long shot, but any ways;

when you make cheese from pasteurised milk, you need add an enzyme called Lipase. This enzyme essentially breaks down fat (or something like that) which is partly needed for the cheese making process. 

You get Lipase in a powder form and always need to dissolve it in chlorine free water (or distilled water) before adding to the milk - not sure why, but could it be that chlorine kills the enzyme?

So where I'm going with this; perhaps the uber clean pool water you are drinking gallons of it seems, with loads of chlorine, is breaking down / killing your Lipase enzymes to the point where your body's fat managing/absorbing system is no longer working properly i.e. your cholesterol goes up (?)

Some more pseudoscience