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:ph34r: Let me be the fly in the ointment....

 

Ditch the sleek/fast drop dead handlebars , super light frame with razor wheels n rubber and jump on a robust straight handlebarred good solid MTB frame with lekker dik knobbly rubber and a gazzillion gears and STAY off of the tar and hit that lakker trail on the side of the road....I do it all the time ...much to the amazement of the motorists...just a thought... :whistling:

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:ph34r: Let me be the fly in the ointment....

 

Ditch the sleek/fast drop dead handlebars , super light frame with razor wheels n rubber and jump on a robust straight handlebarred good solid MTB frame with lekker dik knobbly rubber and a gazzillion gears and STAY off of the tar and hit that lakker trail on the side of the road....I do it all the time ...much to the amazement of the motorists...just a thought... :whistling:

Until you get stabbed in the bushes.

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Don't be lazy, read the thread before commenting. If you see no fault on cyclists' part in OP's post,then you're part of the problem. Your mentality seems to be "Whether we're following rules or not doesn't matter, all that matters is that everyone else follows the rules"

 

I dont need to read it to know that its victim blaming, all has the same vibe.

 

Starts with Personal story about how bike safety has touched them.

 

Noting they are a cyclist as well. 

 

Spotted cyclist not obeying a road rule.

 

Cyclists are their own worst enemy and deserve to die. 

 

Ctrl c, Ctrl v for the past 9 years on the bikehub. 

 

Then people will chime in that they saw someone obeying the law but still annoying a road user. 

 

Someone will suggest Mtbing and getting stabbed

 

Patch and I will knit pick. 

 

Cyclists carry on being murdered by drivers regardless of who is obeying what laws. 

 

Someone points out its victim blaming.

 

Some people dont understand what victim blaming is.

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It doesn't matter who's right and who's wrong when you're dead. Make sure you look after yourself. If the road condition is too poor to ride in a safe place, ride where it IS safe, don't ride or get a bike you can ride in poor conditions. The choice is yours. Your life is yours. Be responsible. Do not abdicate responsibility for your life to anyone else.

 

When other people make mistakes and cause accidents and impact your life, that's a different conversation and is to do with their actions.

 

IMHO

I know what you mean and agree with the point to an extent, but at the same time it isn't just that. If I get killed tomorrow morning by a drunk driver, my family will be very bitter and will blame society and the failed justice system. If I get killed by a freak accident, it is just a terrible event and people will cope much easier (at least they should, celebrate the life that was, even if it was brief!).

 

:ph34r: Let me be the fly in the ointment....

 

Ditch the sleek/fast drop dead handlebars , super light frame with razor wheels n rubber and jump on a robust straight handlebarred good solid MTB frame with lekker dik knobbly rubber and a gazzillion gears and STAY off of the tar and hit that lakker trail on the side of the road....I do it all the time ...much to the amazement of the motorists...just a thought... :whistling:

I was going to answer exactly the same as Pure Savage did, with the only difference being he's a roadie and I'm mostly mtb - the knife still hurts either way.

 

I have only just turned 30, spring chicken. :P

Howcome you don't use multiquote and set a good example if you're also young and technologically inclined? :ph34r:

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Damn!!!!

This thread has become bitter.

 

However, at the end of the day, as a cyclist, you do not stand a Chance against a donkie cart, a motorbike, car or truck.

Refusing to ride in then yellow lane because its your right to be in the road or cycle lane is nothing but foolish and immature. This is not the type of road users needed on our roads.

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:ph34r: Let me be the fly in the ointment....

 

Ditch the sleek/fast drop dead handlebars , super light frame with razor wheels n rubber and jump on a robust straight handlebarred good solid MTB frame with lekker dik knobbly rubber and a gazzillion gears and STAY off of the tar and hit that lakker trail on the side of the road....I do it all the time ...much to the amazement of the motorists...just a thought... :whistling:

Yeah - tried that yesterday. I think I'd stick to the roads. Even those without shoulders (and entitled motorists):

 

https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/32361-cape-town-danger-areas/page-37?do=findComment&comment=3426944

 

I had a bit of an encounter on the new gravel bike path next to Annandale road (outside Stellenbosch) yesterday. A guy saw me coming (I mostly ride alone), jumped down the 2m verge and blocked the path. I saw him, and stopped about 20m short of him and asked what he wanted.

 

He started listing his Christmas list:

Food

water

a phone

.

.

.

 

Luckily, a passing motorist saw the scene unfolding and stopped. The guy took a look at the motorist and moved aside slightly. I took my chance and bolted past him, waving my sincere appreciation to the motorist. 

 

Definitely a new place to encounter trouble (and this was after I'd sh@t myself seeing a 1.5m snake an hour previously).

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Sooner people go on holiday and chill... the better....

 

 

An ellipsis is three dots you bloody imbecile...

 

oh my sack!! can't you see he was ending the sentence with a full-stop!

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I know what you mean and agree with the point to an extent, but at the same time it isn't just that. If I get killed tomorrow morning by a drunk driver, my family will be very bitter and will blame society and the failed justice system. If I get killed by a freak accident, it is just a terrible event and people will cope much easier (at least they should, celebrate the life that was, even if it was brief!).

 

I was going to answer exactly the same as Pure Savage did, with the only difference being he's a roadie and I'm mostly mtb - the knife still hurts either way.

 

Howcome you don't use multiquote and set a good example if you're also young and technologically inclined? :ph34r:

It escapes be to be honest.  

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Damn!!!!

This thread has become bitter.

 

However, at the end of the day, as a cyclist, you do not stand a Chance against a donkie cart, a motorbike, car or truck.

Refusing to ride in then yellow lane because its your right to be in the road or cycle lane is nothing but foolish and immature. This is not the type of road users needed on our roads.

 

Yet not a single motorist is able to stick to the speed limit on Chappies, not a single one. Circles baffle and blow their minds, talking on the cell phone. These are not the road users needed on our roads.

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Yet not a single motorist is able to stick to the speed limit on Chappies, not a single one. Circles baffle and blow their minds, talking on the cell phone. These are not the road users needed on our roads.

 

I do, but then I'm verskrik (read: bef0k) like that... and yes, even the 20kmh parts. On my bike on the other hand... 

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