Longbarn Killer Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 wow classy dude why bother to be here why dont you just go play with the neanderthal bike haters here .....https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/ ...you will be so much happier there Neanderthal bike haters? I love the irony and class in your post.
Paul Ruinaard Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 Why stoke this fire again. This incident was totally avoidable if the cyclist had just used his brain rather than his ego. We are sitting here debating an incident that just needs common sense applied to it. IMO the cyclist was being a knob. You can see the expression on his face - he knows what he's doing. You will never see an incident like this in Holland or Belgium or France because everyone co-exists and they aren't all measuring their penises by going for a bicycle ride in fancy lycra and carbon fibre. Everyone is trying to work together and co-operate rather than kill each other and demarcate a piece of road as theirs and enforcing their rights to be in a place on a piece of shared turf. Saying "My rights are as strong or as good as yours, and i am going to demonstrate it by obstructing you and potentially enraging you and then if sh*t goes south i am going to try and claim to be the victim" When the driver eventually goes postal after his mirror is damaged that's when all of a sudden carbon fibre and lycra are no match for steel. At that stage the calculation he made about pissing off the truck has just backfired big time. Never bring a sword to a gunfight. That's what that cyclist learned. He effectively teased the playground bully and got a moer of a snot klap for his trouble. Is it right - no. Was he right - no. Do 2 x wrongs make a right - no. Move on.
DieselnDust Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 The title of the video is interesting. If this is in Singapore, where is the cyclist from if he is classed as foreign ?Maybe I am being silly, but he looks 'local' to me... Likely Malaysia if he's "foreign". Lots of people cycle between Singapore and Malaysia. Its not that far away
DieselnDust Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 Why stoke this fire again. This incident was totally avoidable if the cyclist had just used his brain rather than his ego. We are sitting here debating an incident that just needs common sense applied to it. IMO the cyclist was being a knob. You can see the expression on his face - he knows what he's doing. You will never see an incident like this in Holland or Belgium or France because everyone co-exists and they aren't all measuring their penises by going for a bicycle ride in fancy lycra and carbon fibre. Everyone is trying to work together and co-operate rather than kill each other and demarcate a piece of road as theirs and enforcing their rights to be in a place on a piece of shared turf. Saying "My rights are as strong or as good as yours, and i am going to demonstrate it by obstructing you and potentially enraging you and then if sh*t goes south i am going to try and claim to be the victim" When the driver eventually goes postal after his mirror is damaged that's when all of a sudden carbon fibre and lycra are no match for steel. At that stage the calculation he made about pissing off the truck has just backfired big time. Never bring a sword to a gunfight. That's what that cyclist learned. He effectively teased the playground bully and got a moer of a snot klap for his trouble. Is it right - no. Was he right - no. Do 2 x wrongs make a right - no. Move on. you do realise you are justifying bullying.....
Paul Ruinaard Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 you do realise you are justifying bullying.....I didnt justify - You can see i said neither is right. I just drew out the logical consequences of actions that need to be thought through - what happens when you dont think and you decide to not understand the environment around you. If you really think its a cool idea to debate bullying with a bouncer that is five times your size then go ahead. I choose to run away and learn to or live to fight another day. I am not what you would call a bold cyclist in many ways any more - but like pilots, you see very few old and bold in either preofression or past time. Taking this analogy to cycling: If you choose to anger motorists that are clad in steel and who can get enraged by your actions then so be it. Well done. Enraged people are not rational and the likelihood of surviving an encounter with one of them is slim. If everyone anticipated the others and said "hey he's in a rush and stressed, i don't know hs frame of mind" and let the guy through - would this have happened? Another analogy - i have ridden motorcycles for years and that taught me to ride defensively and always anticipate people doing crazy stuff. Wrong or right makes no difference if you are dead.
eccc whippet Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 There is a simple road rule...KEEP LEFT ...pass right.
GaryvdM Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 There is a simple road rule...KEEP LEFT ...pass right. The cyclist was in the left lane. The truck should overtake in the right lane, and not try squeeze past in the same lane.
Chingy182 Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 My initial thought was that I didn't have an issue with the cyclist taking the lane approaching a red robot a few metres out - there's no benefit of overtaking in this situation. Coming out on the green light and still taking the road and showing aggression towards the vehicle was just being a spiteful and deliberate @$$. Kinda got what was coming to him, but what the vehicle did was extremely dangerous as well and could have killed the guy. 2 wrongs don't make a right.
J∆kk∆ls Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 Two wrongs don't make a right. Two d0oses, can be fatal.
eccc whippet Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 The cyclist was in the left lane. The truck should overtake in the right lane, and not try squeeze past in the same lane.I agree... but who came off second best? The reality is most of us live outside of The Truman show bubble.
Paul Ruinaard Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 Seen as though this was in Singapore i couldn't resist: Two wrongs don't make a right, but it seems like two Wongs certainly make a fight....
Patchelicious Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 Rules and rights are not emotional, humans are. Even the most chilled people on this thread have probably lost their temper at one point or another. If you intentionally antagonise another human with emotions, you should be surprised if they don't react well to it.
Duane_Bosch Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 I watched the vid and to me it looks like attempted murder. Just coz someone rides like a box doesn't give you the right to try and kill him with your car.
Geronimo Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 Nobody deserves to be physically injured because they caused someone else a 10 second delay regardless of what vehicle they're in. Same as nobody deserves to have their vehicle damaged by someone else because of a road altercation. What world do you live in that damage and injury is "deserved reward and more" for a few swear words and delay? Hear what you saying but that d@@s did that to my car I would've klapped the K@K out of him
Paul Ruinaard Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 Hear what you saying but that d@@s did that to my car I would've klapped the K@K out of himYou realize you are condoning bullying :-).
Geronimo Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 You realize you are condoning bullying :-). I'm old school if you act like a d@@s ....
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