Ascension Posted April 12, 2019 Share If people wanna ride racing couches I have no problem with it. But I will stick to my pure 100mm racing dually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted April 12, 2019 Share People often confuse the term 'trail' bike with an 'Enduro' bike here. A 'trail' bike in essence IS an all rounder. 110-120mm travel on the back, 120-130mm front, nippy, not super slack but not steep and does everything 'well'. When you start talking 140mm with 66' HA you're not talking about a 'trail' bike anymore. Captain Fastbastard Mayhem, slickjay007, Headshot and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebob Posted April 12, 2019 Share good video on the subject I'm super happy on my Trail Bike! Edited April 12, 2019 by the_bob Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and slickjay007 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted April 12, 2019 Share People often confuse the term 'trail' bike with an 'Enduro' bike here. A 'trail' bike in essence IS an all rounder. 110-120mm travel on the back, 120-130mm front, nippy, not super slack but not steep and does everything 'well'. When you start talking 140mm with 66' HA you're not talking about a 'trail' bike anymore.I'd say that the "trail" designation extends to some 140/150mm bikes as well, depending on what they are and how their suspension is designed. But the majority of 150 plus bikes are in the "all Mountain" cat, which just means more travel and slacker angles with a focus skewed towards more technical descents. Then Enduro above that with the latest long low slack moniker. Edit: but yeah, in general I agree with you, Jewie. ???? Edited April 12, 2019 by Captain Fatbastard Mayhem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon123 Posted April 12, 2019 Share If people wanna ride racing couches I have no problem with it. But I will stick to my pure 100mm racing dually.You may be surprised. I can only think that the 100mm bike has a lower handbar position in switchback climbs. My trail bike with 2.4WT tyres (although will put on an Ardent Race for S2C next month, but leave Minion SS on back) and 140mm travel and trail pedals probably weighs less than most XC dualies, but if I put the DPX2 rear shock in the middle position and the fork with slightly more LSC, probably just as efficient at climbing too. But on the downhills? Yeah, well.... Rich990 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dev null Posted April 12, 2019 Share Riding my son's Scalpel Si was a revelation to me. Don't underestimate that racing machine's ability to do the rough stuff. If I could only have one bike, that would be it. DieselnDust, Duane_Bosch, Farrnus and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon123 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Riding my son's Scalpel Si was a revelation to me. Don't underestimate that racing machine's ability to do the rough stuff. I did the Houw Hoek tour last year on a borrowed 2018 Giant Anthem 29er. Was damn impressed with it. Modern XC bikes have come a long way, but back to back with a trail bike? I'll choose trail every day and again on Sunday, and even on day 4 of a stage race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henningvr Posted April 12, 2019 Share People often confuse the term 'trail' bike with an 'Enduro' bike here. A 'trail' bike in essence IS an all rounder. 110-120mm travel on the back, 120-130mm front, nippy, not super slack but not steep and does everything 'well'. When you start talking 140mm with 66' HA you're not talking about a 'trail' bike anymore.I now have an enduro bike. 'Cause Jewie said so. (Yesssss....) Headshot and Jewbacca 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted April 12, 2019 Share Riding my son's Scalpel Si was a revelation to me. Don't underestimate that racing machine's ability to do the rough stuff. If I could only have one bike, that would be it. Yes for you but it would put a limit on what I can ride and have fun on. Like rock drops and high speed baby head descents and fast skiddy corners and chunky rock gardens etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted April 12, 2019 Share I rode a 3 day on my old 160mm enduro a few years ago. Was never the best climbing bike but fairly light and an absolute blast on the rocky descents. One Scalpel rider was amazed at how swiftly my 26er handled the big rocks ... henningvr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted April 12, 2019 Share good video on the subject I'm super happy on my Trail Bike!They don't even bother with an XC bike - they are niche products overseas. :-) Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and Hairy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickjay007 Posted April 12, 2019 Share good video on the subject I'm super happy on my Trail Bike! Good video but not much said about XC bikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTBeer Posted April 12, 2019 Share Good video but not much said about XC bikesthere's not much to say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickjay007 Posted April 12, 2019 Share there's not much to say... I ride and XC bike and have no issues with the ride,feel or ability of the bike. I suppose it's just a personal preference at the end of the day. DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTBeer Posted April 12, 2019 Share I ride and XC bike and have no issues with the ride,feel or ability of the bike. I suppose it's just a personal preference at the end of the day.schweet. please note sarcasm font in original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickjay007 Posted April 15, 2019 Share schweet. please note sarcasm font in original post. Sarcasm noted for future... MTBeer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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