Neill Du Toit Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 I have the older version 2FO shoes and I feel my Vans has better grip but my feet feel much less “protected”. Apparently the newer 2FO’s is much better. As mentioned longer distances will probably also be harder on your feet with the Vans.
keithbe Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 The 2F0 2.0 are just as bad. After 1 year going back to tried and trusted 5/10s Impact Pro; only problem is that these have been purchased at CRC and waiting on good old, NOT!, Skynet 2FOs are toast. No grip and sides have torn on the right side. I have the older version 2FO shoes and I feel my Vans has better grip but my feet feel much less “protected”. Apparently the newer 2FO’s is much better. As mentioned longer distances will probably also be harder on your feet with the Vans.
quickdraw Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 how's those brown boys?Surprisingly they have been pretty comfortable off the bat for me, I had read that being leather they need a bit of wear in time. They appear to have more than enough grip and the mid foot support is quite good without losing the feel of the pedals. I am reasonably new to the flat pedal scene, and am only comparing these to some FiveTen aescents which are really approach shoes but have been pretty lekker on the bike.
RiverInTheRoad Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 Ja, that works in a skate park/ dirt jumps/ pump track/ etc. But when you ride any sort of distance where pedaling efficiency matters they are way too flexy, and not grippy enouhh for rough rock gardens or roots at speed. A pair of 5.10s or 2FO's are slightly stiffer - and they grip like crazy. A skate shoe will work, but let's be honest - it's not really the right tool for the job.I have 5Ten Impact Vxi and they do not grip the pedals better than skate shoes (much nicer to hike a bike with though!!). Grip wise you are fine with skateshoes. Sole stiffness and the toebox is what makes MTB shoes nice.
Grease_Monkey Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 So in your experience, how far can you ride with skate shoes compared to MTB specific shoes? I have zero issues riding skate shoes over 50km, and I'll argue that if you're riding much farther than that then flat pedals are not the best choice in any case. Secondly, I'm really surprised that you've had grip issues with skate shoes as I find them extremely grippy, as they should be, since grip is paramount in skating. Maybe you just had a bad pair.In my experience (and it is just that) - any form of trail riding with skate shoes where you have to pedal is not lekker, purely because of the flex in the shoes - even an hour of riding. Grip - they aren't bad, there are just better tools for the job - an mtb shoe. Ride a skate shoe (any) and then a dedicated mtb shoe back to back and you will see what I mean. Like I said, skate shoes work, but they are made different for a reason - you want more flex for skating, less for mtb. Skateboards have grip tape - pedals do not - so skate shoes needs less grip. As a teen I rode with skate shoes in skate parks, dirt jump parks and so on, but now that I have used both skate shoes and mtb shoes on the trail I can without a doubt say the mtb shoes are better. I am just a believer of using the right tool for the right job.
Thermophage Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 Skate shoes you can ride far in (30km+), I have, but it is noticeably harder. But they are also k@k for grip when going through a rock garden as the rubber is just too soft.Great for DJ, BMX, slopestyle, and cruising around, but not great for actual MTBYou've done the right thing getting some proper shoes
Eddy Gordo Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 Skate shoes you can ride far in (30km+), I have, but it is noticeably harder. But they are also k@k for grip when going through a rock garden as the rubber is just too soft.Great for DJ, BMX, slopestyle, and cruising around, but not great for actual MTBYou've done the right thing getting some proper shoes
Chadvdw67 Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 Just want to put this out there for anyone that may be interested... I have a pair of these, granted they are work/safety shoes, but I tried them awhile back on my bike, and they worked well, they stuck to the pedals like snot on a carpet, and so far, they seem pretty durable, I work in a factory with oil and hot shavings on the floors and they are holding up well, being a safety shoe they have a big strong toe box and they are pretty comfortable. The one downside I noticed, they make your feet pretty hot on the bike, but its something I am willing to live with seeing as though they retail at like R900 a pair. I am going to buy another pair for riding, and if they dont work out, I have another pair of work shoes...
Eddy Gordo Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 Just want to put this out there for anyone that may be interested... I have a pair of these, granted they are work/safety shoes, but I tried them awhile back on my bike, and they worked well, they stuck to the pedals like snot on a carpet, and so far, they seem pretty durable, I work in a factory with oil and hot shavings on the floors and they are holding up well, being a safety shoe they have a big strong toe box and they are pretty comfortable. The one downside I noticed, they make your feet pretty hot on the bike, but its something I am willing to live with seeing as though they retail at like R900 a pair. I am going to buy another pair for riding, and if they dont work out, I have another pair of work shoes... Screenshot_20190801-095717_Samsung Internet.jpgScreenshot_20190801-095738_Samsung Internet.jpgIsnt that toe box, a steel toe box? the mtb ones are reinforced leather/material probably even carbon
greg_sa Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 The 2F0 2.0 are just as bad. After 1 year going back to tried and trusted 5/10s Impact Pro; only problem is that these have been purchased at CRC and waiting on good old, NOT!, Skynet 2FOs are toast. No grip and sides have torn on the right side. I think you may have been unlucky? I've had my 2FO 2.0 shoes for about a year, and they are still perfect.
Chadvdw67 Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 Isnt that toe box, a steel toe box? the mtb ones are reinforced leather/material probably even carbonYes I think it is steel being a safety shoe, so the shoes are probably also a bit heavier, but again, I am willing to accept that. Just put it out there as an option, it has worked for me, it might work for others.
ChrisF Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 Maritz was faffing about in the road with his bike tonight .... so I got my bike out to show him a few things .... Helmets on, but in normal clothes, and with normal tekkies on the flat pedals ..... WOW !!!!! Can hardly believe I rode like that for a few years !!! Once you know how real shows grip on flat pedals it is scary to feel the lack of grip from normal shoes !!!
Grubscrew Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 Just want to put this out there for anyone that may be interested... I have a pair of these, granted they are work/safety shoes, but I tried them awhile back on my bike, and they worked well, they stuck to the pedals like snot on a carpet, and so far, they seem pretty durable, I work in a factory with oil and hot shavings on the floors and they are holding up well, being a safety shoe they have a big strong toe box and they are pretty comfortable. The one downside I noticed, they make your feet pretty hot on the bike, but its something I am willing to live with seeing as though they retail at like R900 a pair. I am going to buy another pair for riding, and if they dont work out, I have another pair of work shoes... LOL, I've been eyeing those exact safety shoes for my next pair of flat pedal shoes, Rebel Lo-Tops. Was actually thinking of posting about them too, but as I've not tried them yet I'm not in a position to comment. Good to hear that they're working for you, I'll certainly give them a go, if they don't work for me on the bike I'll just use them in the workshop.
Grubscrew Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 In my experience (and it is just that) - any form of trail riding with skate shoes where you have to pedal is not lekker, purely because of the flex in the shoes - even an hour of riding. Grip - they aren't bad, there are just better tools for the job - an mtb shoe. Ride a skate shoe (any) and then a dedicated mtb shoe back to back and you will see what I mean. Like I said, skate shoes work, but they are made different for a reason - you want more flex for skating, less for mtb. Skateboards have grip tape - pedals do not - so skate shoes needs less grip. As a teen I rode with skate shoes in skate parks, dirt jump parks and so on, but now that I have used both skate shoes and mtb shoes on the trail I can without a doubt say the mtb shoes are better. I am just a believer of using the right tool for the right job. Yeah it's probably a personal thing, shoe flex just isn't a thing for me, likely because I walk barefoot 80% of the time. A while back I was trying on some road shoes, when the salesman started talking sole stiffness I told him that it's all just marketing wank. The look on his face was completely incredulous, I don't even think calling Merckx overrated would have elicited more horror. But to get back to the OP, if the choice is between not riding your bike (due to lack of availability of "MTB" shoes), or gunning it with some skate (or safety) shoes... It's a no-brainer.
MarcHD Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 With 5 10s seemingly no longer available, does anyone know know where I might find decent alternative flat pedal shoes in Cape Town? To answer your question and the speculation... My partners at Get Stoked Distribution were the agent's for Five Ten shoes for more than 5 years, but sadly our contract has come to an end with no intentions from Adidas to continue distributing the brand. To our knowledge, the brand will no longer be available in SA for the foreseeable future as we can only imagine it's not nearly profitable enough for a multi billion dollar company like Adidas - as some astute hubbers have guessed. That being said we have acquired the rights to import and distribute Ride Concepts and I can confidently say that after more than 5 years of only riding Five Ten shoes as a DH and Trail (Enduro) rider - they are absolutely a solid competitor to Five Ten! We will not only be receiving stock of our first shipment soon, but we will also be launching our B2C portal in the next month through which the end consumer can click-and-collect their choice of any Get Stoked brands, including Ride Concepts. If you would like to know more about which models we have coming and when we expect to launch them you can hit us up at: marc@getstoked.co.zaorinfo@getstoked.co.za Thanks!
ChrisF Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 Yeah it's probably a personal thing, shoe flex just isn't a thing for me, likely because I walk barefoot 80% of the time. A while back I was trying on some road shoes, when the salesman started talking sole stiffness I told him that it's all just marketing wank. The look on his face was completely incredulous, I don't even think calling Merckx overrated would have elicited more horror. But to get back to the OP, if the choice is between not riding your bike (due to lack of availability of "MTB" shoes), or gunning it with some skate (or safety) shoes... It's a no-brainer. before buying the 2FO's I replaced my tekkies, with yet another pair - same brand same model .. except it was a few years younger model and every so slightly different .... SH@T myself when my feet moved on the pedals mid corner !!! YES, it is a no-brainer - DO get something that GRIPS on the pedals. Forget "Flex", just get something that GRIPS !!
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