2012 Dogma Think 2 vs 2017 Giant TCR

[Jordache]

Hi guys, 

Bit of a conundrum, I'm specifically looking for a rim brake frame, options have been limited, I've narrowed it down to two frames, 2012 Pinarello Dogma Think 2 vs 2017 Giant TCR. Both frames are "new" and the Pina is about R5k more expensive. What are your thoughts? 

[Mopkop]

I would go TCR, bombproof frame and I recon it'll be a lighter build too. Which ever one you go for make sure the size is right

[Me rida my bicycle]

No idea about road bikes but the Giant looks more modern, the Dogma looks a bit dated. 

Just what I see as said I don't know much about those uncomfortable things 😂

[Just have fun]

Without a doubt the Giant!

[Furbz]

The newer Giant wins easily.

Giant is a very under rated bike brand

[guidodg]

Giant all the way..

[Arrie]

I Think the Giant

['Dale]

The Giant TCR is one of the best frames in the history of the sport, timeless, solid engineering, all-rounder and a solid pedigree.

[Andreas_187]

Absolutely, no question TCR. 

[shobax]

Out of interest... whats thenprice of the giant tcr frame... and from where..

[buckstopper]

And soon 28mm tyres will become the new 23. I don't think the pinarello can take them whereas I believe the tcr can. I once looked at an F8 frame and didn't buy it for that reason. 

[vanniri]

Giant TCR by a long shot. For all the reasons above. 

Having said that, triple check fit, the best frame will be the one that fits properly.

[buckstopper]

Fit absolutely, and also steerer length. Pina cut very low

[Mongoose!]

The Pina will ride much nicer. Will be way stiffer and you will feel that power transfer / responsiveness much better on this frame.   (Asymmetrical chain stays and seat tube).

In the past I have owned both.

If the Giant is not a SL model (their higher grade carbon layout) one cannot really compare these two frames.

Giant is like a Toyota Corolla - some will consider it as a good thing - other not 

Sadly there is a little bit of a stigma to these Pinarello frames thanks to all the Chinarello's that were (and still do) floating around...

As a hardcore roadie I would pick the Pina.

Don't put too much value in mountain bikers advice  on road bikes ...lol 🙃

some marketing bs on Pina below

Pinarello Dogma 65.1 Think2 - BikeRadar