[Event] Tour de Worcester Road Race

[bleedToWin]

  On 9/30/2023 at 6:57 PM, Thornman said:

Winelands not a sanctioned event. With Wocester on the same day, you stand a change of a 1 month ban if you do Winelands. Won't be able to race National Champs then. 

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Did they not maybe starting to apply for sanctioning after the tragedy 2 years ago? Just wondering out loud, but nothing on their website, and CSA calendar has TdW already listed so seems likely Winelands is still only PPA covered.

[ChrisF]

  On 10/1/2023 at 3:20 PM, bleedToWin said:

Did they not maybe starting to apply for sanctioning after the tragedy 2 years ago? Just wondering out loud, but nothing on their website, and CSA calendar has TdW already listed so seems likely Winelands is still only PPA covered.

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What is the difference between an event being "CSA santioned" vs needing a CSA license or CSA day license for an event ?

 

 

The Winelands web page says PPA sanctioned and CSA (day) license needed

[bleedToWin]

  On 10/1/2023 at 4:15 PM, ChrisF said:

The Winelands web page says PPA sanctioned and CSA (day) license needed

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Where?

[ChrisF]

  On 10/1/2023 at 4:32 PM, bleedToWin said:

Where?

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PPA - From the Winelands race webpage, also same wording on Entry Ninja -

 

CSA - From Entry Ninja, when registering for Winelands -

 

 

Just showing what I see on Entry Ninja ...

 

Open to learn from those that speak CSA, as to what all of this means ...

[FranE]

Winelands isn't CSA sanctioned it's a load of Bull, if anything goes wrong it's tickets for you. My son was punched during event and we couldn't take legal action simply because it's not a sanctioned event. I also believe that SA Road Champs is being held from 28th January 2024 so what now🤔

[stringbean]

You know where SA road champs 2024 are  been held?

[Skubarra]

  On 10/1/2023 at 3:20 PM, bleedToWin said:

Did they not maybe starting to apply for sanctioning after the tragedy 2 years ago? Just wondering out loud, but nothing on their website, and CSA calendar has TdW already listed so seems likely Winelands is still only PPA covered.

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Like Chris mentioned - when you enter they mention a CSA license, so I am sure that they will be sanctioned.

I wouldn't read too much into the clash of dates with the TdW, this happens all the time with mtb and gravel events that are CSA sanctioned.

The only big event I am aware of that is not CSA sanctioned is Karoo to Coast

Edited October 2, 2023 by Skubarra

[bleedToWin]

  On 10/2/2023 at 7:48 AM, FranE said:

I also believe that SA Road Champs is being held from 28th January 2024

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  On 10/2/2023 at 8:25 AM, stringbean said:

You know where SA road champs 2024 are  been held?

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I'd also like that inside scoop 🙏

[Thornman]

  On 10/2/2023 at 8:25 AM, stringbean said:

You know where SA road champs 2024 are  been held?

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Joburg. Early Feb 😉

[FranE]

Alberton, but still waiting on exact details 

[WaldoZ]

  On 10/2/2023 at 9:26 AM, Thornman said:

Joburg. Early Feb 😉

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Joburg a summer rain region right?

[Jbr]

On cycling SA site. Looks like it is now sanctionned ?

 

Fact that I have no idea what my current seeding index is AND that I missed Durbie Dash and One tonner makes me consider doing this rather than Tour de worcester that I was entered for and has been pushed on the same day...

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[Skubarra]

  On 11/8/2023 at 9:21 AM, Jbr said:

On cycling SA site. Looks like it is now sanctionned ?

 

Fact that I have no idea what my current seeding index is AND that I missed Durbie Dash and One tonner makes me consider doing this rather than Tour de worcester that I was entered for and has been pushed on the same day...

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Given that this is not PPA/Racetec/Finish Time i dont think normal seeding would apply?

Also same date as Winelands Cycle Tour which is disappointing

[ChrisF]

  On 11/8/2023 at 9:32 AM, Skubarra said:

Given that this is not PPA/Racetec/Finish Time i dont think normal seeding would apply?

Also same date as Winelands Cycle Tour which is disappointing

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Winelands is a seeding event.

 

They have a very different starting order to most other races I have done.

 

The racing snakes have their starting groups.  Then the Tandems.  Then a few more fast groups.  Then the e-bikes.  And then the weekend riders start ....  (would be interesting to hear how they seed the top riders)

 

They have an early price giving, and a lucky draw session.  No absurd long wait for the fast riders ....  Then a few hours later there is another lucky draw session for the weekend riders.

 

 

BEST VIBE of any road event I have experienced.

[Mamil]

I'm still in 2 minds as to where I'll be on 28 Jan. Leaning towards Worcester just for some variety on my Strava heat map.

[Skubarra]

  On 11/10/2023 at 6:49 AM, Mamil said:

I'm still in 2 minds as to where I'll be on 28 Jan. Leaning towards Worcester just for some variety on my Strava heat map.

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I think with the clash of dates the turnout will probably be small, might just turn out to be a long solo 140km if you get dropped early.... but since I have never done it before and the normal date always clashes with other events I will make the effort. With Oudtshoorn done its the only road race in the WC I still need to tick of my bucket list.