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On 4/16/2025 at 11:58 AM, Belinda Roxburgh said:

Taun Bewsher/ Cederberg UltraMtb Update: I have been refunded my 8K by Taun's father-in-law. I explained to him that I was uncomfortable taking his money and that I would rather wait for Taun to refund me along with all the others when his new overseas business venture takes off. I am now under pressure to remove my posts here and on FB. Which morally I can't actually agree to do. 

I still have no proof of any fire that caused our Cederberg cycle trip to be cancelled last minute, nor proof that "Mike Walters" ever existed. I do however have a letter from my bank explaining that this was a "Goods Scam"...

Was the pressure you talk of applied before or after refund was received.?

Was the content mentioned at all before the refund was received.? 

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On 4/16/2025 at 11:58 AM, Belinda Roxburgh said:

Taun Bewsher/ Cederberg UltraMtb Update: I have been refunded my 8K by Taun's father-in-law. I explained to him that I was uncomfortable taking his money and that I would rather wait for Taun to refund me along with all the others when his new overseas business venture takes off. I am now under pressure to remove my posts here and on FB. Which morally I can't actually agree to do. 

I still have no proof of any fire that caused our Cederberg cycle trip to be cancelled last minute, nor proof that "Mike Walters" ever existed. I do however have a letter from my bank explaining that this was a "Goods Scam"...

What on earth is his new overseas adventure? Now he is going to scam foreigners and give this country a bad rep. This does not sound good.

Posted
1 hour ago, Mike Dewing said:

I’m of the impression an offer was made and accepted, payment was made and received.. it has since been promised to a good cause.. 

 

There is a little more than that to contract law and also fraud as a criminal offence.

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21 minutes ago, eddy said:

There is a little more than that to contract law and also fraud as a criminal offence.

Hey look, it’s not a sophisticated contract but you could argue that it is one.. 

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41 minutes ago, Mike Dewing said:

Hey look, it’s not a sophisticated contract but you could argue that it is one.. 

Well, you could argue that, but you'd be wrong 100% of the time 

Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, eddy said:

Well, you could argue that, but you'd be wrong 100% of the time 

So predictable..

contract is simply defined as an agreement, written or verbal.. written unfortunately is broader than your mom and includes agreements reached over text and email.. 

🤷🏼‍♂️

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1 minute ago, WaynejG said:

I am still battling to understand how the father in law decided to bail him out and pay the money back. I just cannot get my mind around that.

In recovery we have a saying.. addicts don’t have relationships they have hostages.. I think it applies to these types of people as well.. soft targets.. 

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36 minutes ago, WaynejG said:

I am still battling to understand how the father in law decided to bail him out and pay the money back. I just cannot get my mind around that.

There is many a father who will do what needs to be done for their daughter. I guess and just a guess is that is part of it. How many times he has bailed him out is not known. But you would have to think this is not the first time and won't be the last. She posted something to do with the epic many moons ago. Maybe she was seeking out targets for him. As I have already mentioned it would be fun to be a fly on the all at their christmas lunch.

**I think a lot of all this depends on how involved she is on his system. 

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53 minutes ago, Lynskey said:

There is many a father who will do what needs to be done for their daughter. I guess and just a guess is that is part of it. How many times he has bailed him out is not known. But you would have to think this is not the first time and won't be the last. She posted something to do with the epic many moons ago. Maybe she was seeking out targets for him. As I have already mentioned it would be fun to be a fly on the all at their christmas lunch.

**I think a lot of all this depends on how involved she is on his system. 

I had a chat with someone else concerning what the FIL did. We both have the same opinion. If that was my daughter she would be given one of two options. You leave him and you have my full support. You choose him then a line is drawn in the sand and there is no coming back.

I do not say this lightly. My parents and myself had zero contact for 5 years over something that boiled over and erupted.

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1 hour ago, WaynejG said:

I had a chat with someone else concerning what the FIL did. We both have the same opinion. If that was my daughter she would be given one of two options. You leave him and you have my full support. You choose him then a line is drawn in the sand and there is no coming back.

I do not say this lightly. My parents and myself had zero contact for 5 years over something that boiled over and erupted.

There is much more to this story which is not my place to share. This family is stuck between a rock and a hard place, they are in an impossible situation and I have enormous empathy for them and their road ahead. ..

There is only one villain in this story and I guess we have to have faith that the truth will out and good will prevail, eventually ✌️

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6 hours ago, Mike Dewing said:

Was the pressure you talk of applied before or after refund was received.?

Was the content mentioned at all before the refund was received.? 

This doesn't really matter, I didn't ask for the money and did not agree to anything although was all discussed, including all the others that are still owed money. I was clear before any refund was down that I would be uncomfortable receiving money from anyone other than Taun and also very uncomfortable to take down the posts.

24 hours after refund done Taun sent an intimidating email which I have barely read and I assured him that I won't be removing any posts because everything is 100% fact and we can just hope it helps others in the future.

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5 hours ago, Belinda Roxburgh said:

This doesn't really matter, I didn't ask for the money and did not agree to anything although was all discussed, including all the others that are still owed money. I was clear before any refund was down that I would be uncomfortable receiving money from anyone other than Taun and also very uncomfortable to take down the posts.

24 hours after refund done Taun sent an intimidating email which I have barely read and I assured him that I won't be removing any posts because everything is 100% fact and we can just hope it helps others in the future.

As long as you did not agree to anything.. just crossing the T’s and dotting the I’s 🙏🏻.. next thing you’re in breach of contract as you didn’t fulfill your suspensive conditions, which are possibly going to be vague and open to interpretation on an agreement over message and you didn’t even know about.. just be very careful.. I only comment from a place of concern 

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7 hours ago, Belinda Roxburgh said:

 

24 hours after refund done Taun sent an intimidating email which I have barely read and I assured him that I won't be removing any posts because everything is 100% fact and we can just hope it helps others in the future.

This is the part that gets my cheese up tight. Its obvious that he has some form of a hold on them, maybe with the wife being pregnant, or some supposed dirty washing over the family via a church or the likes there of 

I wish he would send me an intimidating letter, it'll give me good reason to respond appropriately 

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