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Your kid comes to you and say, daddy I want a bicycle, you are going to get him a bicycle. You teach your kid how to ride the bike, take off the training wheels, you let him go... He swerves and end up in front of a car.

I never learned riding a bike with a helmet, I lived. I never learned to ride a bicycle with a helmet, only when I entered my first race, I was forced to get a helmet.

If you have kids and never made a mistake, throw rocks, otherwise just pray for the kid.I don't have kids yet, I don't know if I will let them have a bike at that age, I would just want my kid to enjoy life. We all make mistakes.

My prairs goes out to the boy AND to his parents.
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Your kid comes to you and say, daddy I want a bicycle, you are going to get him a bicycle. You teach your kid how to ride the bike, take off the training wheels, you let him go... He swerves and end up in front of a car.

I never learned riding a bike with a helmet, I lived. I never learned to ride a bicycle with a helmet, only when I entered my first race, I was forced to get a helmet.

If you have kids and never made a mistake, throw rocks, otherwise just pray for the kid.I don't have kids yet, I don't know if I will let them have a bike at that age, I would just want my kid to enjoy life. We all make mistakes.

My prairs goes out to the boy AND to his parents.
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Are these the same parents that ride around in their cars with the kids on the back seat not buckled up, or STANDING on the front passenger seat while they driveAngryAngryAngryAngryAngry

 

 

 

Actually people like this are doing us a favour by allowing evolution to follow its course and removing the stupid from the gene pool.

 

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So should we just leave the pool cover off so that toddlers can 'test their boundries' and 'just be kids'?  No, parents know that is stupid and irresponsible at a certain age.  If you have kids you know they don't know what they are capable of and you have a responsibility to guide them.  Not wrap them in cotton wool, but let them try things at the right age.

I have kids and yes, they do lots of crap and yes my son rides a an mx bike when he visits his mate on the farm or his cousin on the farm, but he knows I will beat the crap out of him if he steps on the quad.  Too many people crash badly with the things and an 11-year old have lots of other boundries to test. Too many horror stories surrounding quads for me to be swayed by the misty-eyed-reminiscing-childless. Just ask anyone who works in ICU.  Quads suck.
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Not wearing the  helmet wasn't the only problem. I've heard that the quad was a 50cc. Uhhm, that doesn't sound so powerfull for a 75-100kg adult, for a 20kg 4 year old, its very powerfull! Also, the place where the quad was bought from didn't have the means to set the bike so that the kid can't open the throttle to full speed.

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Not wearing the  helmet wasn't the only problem. I've heard that the quad was a 50cc. Uhhm, that doesn't sound so powerfull for a 75-100kg adult, for a 20kg 4 year old, its very powerfull! Also, the place where the quad was bought from didn't have the means to set the bike so that the kid can't open the throttle to full speed.

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I am not a fan of quads myself.  I have hear to many bad stories about them.  Also I have observed those on quads and concluded that they are unsafe.  However, that is for me, there are those out there that can handle them.

 

I am concerned that the parents, who seem to be  quad riders, were willing to let the kid on a quad in an unsafe environment.  But under pressure parents do make mistakes.

 

Lesson to be learn, even kids take time to learn new skills.  Slowly does it.

 

 

 
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I am not a fan of quads myself.  I have hear to many bad stories about them.  Also I have observed those on quads and concluded that they are unsafe.  However' date=' that is for me, there are those out there that can handle them.

 

I am concerned that the parents, who seem to be  quad riders, were willing to let the kid on a quad in an unsafe environment.  But under pressure parents do make mistakes.

 

Lesson to be learn, even kids take time to learn new skills.  Slowly does it.

 

 

 
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Cute... the day my 4 year old can pressure me into being irresponsible, is the day I resign my membership...

 

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A scrambler is safer than a quad.  It throws you off before you go beyond your capabilities.  Quads just suck

 

You're quite right. If (whenWink) you fall of an offroad bike, the bike tends to move away from you with momentum. It is also easier to push the bike away from your body on your way down. Normal 125cc weigh about 75-80kgs.

Quads tend to fall back on the rider, or the rider breaks an ankle, because he wants to put his foot out. Proper gear can prevent most of it.
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A scrambler is safer than a quad.  It throws you off before you go beyond your capabilities.  Quads just suck

 
 Proper gear can prevent most of it.

 

Ya...along with proper training... imagine this little boy's parents had known that....

TNT12008-11-18 08:16:44

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this is the issue to learn from this all - clearly the kids parents didn't know better AND they made a HUGE mistake, but at least the kid has survived and is healing up. with the right support etc maybe, just maybe, these people can be convinced to try and get others to learn from their mistake instead of being badly treated and pushed into "defensive mode".

 

here's hoping that little Derrik continues his excellent recovery and that other people will learn from this and not make the same mistake.
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I bought my son a quad and a helmet for Christmas but after reading this it will be for sale soon.

 

Or teach him how to ride it correctly, in a designated area, and get him some correct gear to go with it?

 

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How many times have we done something really stupid. It didn't start off that way, but from this to that and before you know it, you wish you could turn back time. The part that hurts the most, was the father's words " The bike accelerated and he was calling "dad, please help me"". Those words alone, would bring the toughest father I know, to his knees. They were doing some orientation, then started the bike, maybe drove slowly with the father next to him, anyway, one thing led to another and this is the outcome. I really feel for the parents as this is a horrible shock to their system, especially as they know it was their fault.

 

Guns don't kill people, neither do quads. My kids have both had quads from the ages of 3. They love their quads and Fabian is now 7 and never fallen off his. I was told I was stupid, rather get them a mx bike. News flash, a kid on a pee wee, at 40 km/h into a tree can also be fatal. It doesn't matter whether it's a quad, mx, bmx etc, kids need to be taught to respect what they are using, understand bad judgement and to wear protective gear as sh*t happens in any form.

 

Windblown, if you still feel like keeping the quad, go for it. Go down to your security shop and ask the sales person for a remote and receiver that has a longish range. These are what you use to open and close automated gates. Then take the kill swith wire to the n/o pin and then a wire from the common to the bike's earth. (if you have hassles, I, or any competant workshop can do it for ouy). Connect the receiver to the bikes 12v and your done. Basically, if you see your son is in trouble, abusing the bike, panic stricken and can't close the throttle or even just riding too fast, you hit the button on the remote and the motor dies. Before you go riding, just test limit of the distance that the remote works at and keep your kids closer. Our latest quad comes with this remote already. I can even start the quad with the remote.

 

Derrick, I hope you have a full recovery my little freind...

 

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