1hill@aTime Posted June 3, 2009 Share There's no physiological reason that someone who's over 30 can't compete with the Elites. how can you say that???, I'm 33 full time single parent, with a full time job, how can you say that a person over 35 has more responsibilities, what a load of nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyzuma Posted June 3, 2009 Share Since when has being a full-time parent affected your physiology? Your responsibilitties, yes, but if you could still train there is no reason you can't be up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreZA Posted June 3, 2009 Share There's no physiological reason that someone who's over 30 can't compete with the Elites.how can you say that???' date=' I'm 33 full time single parent, with a full time job, how can you say that a person over 35 has more responsibilities, what a load of nonsense. [/quote'] what is more important, your child or your bicycle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Henning Posted June 3, 2009 Share Can we have a separation for pro's and amateurs in the female racing as well...??? Or am i just being soft in my older age now They are separated already. All the amateurs are racing here and our only pro is playing in the US somewhere. Carla Swart? Don't forget about Arien... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1hill@aTime Posted June 3, 2009 Share exactly mampara, that's why i don't race elites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest colonel Posted June 3, 2009 Share Dead right - it will fall into line with the other sporting codes where you become a Vet at 40' date=' but they throw the 35+ competitors a bone as "Sub-vets". ?[/quote'] MX is 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Henning Posted June 3, 2009 Share There's no physiological reason that someone who's over 30 can't compete with the Elites.how can you say that???' date=' I'm 33 full time single parent, with a full time job, how can you say that a person over 35 has more responsibilities, what a load of nonsense.[/quote'] I understand your point, but what about (let's say hypothetically) a 27 year-old with exactly the same responsibilities as you? Should he not then be allowed to race vets as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1hill@aTime Posted June 3, 2009 Share phen you right, so i think this whole thing should be 1st age then seeding should also come into play, and not oh you 30-34 so you suck and should go ride A group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willehond Posted June 3, 2009 Share You're spot on' date=' Phen! And for those 30-35s who don't feel like racing elite, there is always the A bunch. [/quote'] Maybe they can even create a special group, like the amateur group Willehond suggested, for all the strong A-bunch riders and those who do not wish to race against the pro's - Then they can combine the prize money that would've gonna to vets 30-34, and the prize money that would've gone to the A bunch, in order to give guys racing in this bunch some insentive. They could also make an Amateur category at SA's and give the winner a jersey that he can wear when racing in that bunch. I think they have amateur national champs in the Netherlands. Yes, they have an amateur champ and it's by no means easy. There is a lot of prize money at stake and it just allows the guys with 'real' jobs to race at a high level. We get guys from Germany and Belgium who come to steal the money! Elites over here are the guys who want to make it and ride for continental level teams (not pro-continental!) or for big sponsored clubs with full race support. Amateurs also have comms and support, but no Elites are allowed. If you think it's soft, at the last 2-day tour we started with a bang. The first hour we did 45kms! I think it is a real option for SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted June 3, 2009 Share I'm far to old and stupid to be paying any attention to this as I still try and ride in A bunch even though I became a VET way back when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1hill@aTime Posted June 3, 2009 Share yea well if that is the case and it does happen, i'll just get a cyclo lic, and not both doing 2 races per month, numbers will drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder Woman Posted June 3, 2009 Share Can we have a separation for pro's and amateurs in the female racing as well...??? Or am i just being soft in my older age now They are separated already. All the amateurs are racing here and our only pro is playing in the US somewhere. Carla Swart? Don't forget about Arien... OK, OK, now I REALLY feel useless, thanks!! There is a 48cm Cannondale Six13 going up for sale...red and black with SRAM components. Any offers Wonder Woman2009-06-03 05:48:21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Henning Posted June 3, 2009 Share phen you right' date=' so i think this whole thing should be 1st age then seeding should also come into play, and not oh you 30-34 so you suck and should go ride A group. [/quote'] Difficult to find an ideal solution to the situation. I don't have any problem with the vets groups, but I feel they need to cater for the younger guys who are in the same situation as the vets, so maybe an amateur group will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Michelle Posted June 3, 2009 Share I reckon they should still have u23 / elite / 30-39 / 40-49 etc. and the top 50 in each cat ride in their own groups, the rest get bunched together according to seeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted June 3, 2009 Share I reckon they should still have u23 / elite / 30-39 / 40-49 etc. and the top 50 in each cat ride in their own groups' date=' the rest get bunched together according to seeding. [/quote'] I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1hill@aTime Posted June 3, 2009 Share michelle for UCI president? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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