JimmyB Posted April 2, 2007 Share Is it the shoes, is it the socks, is it the seat height? I suffered badly on the epic from bad blood circulation in my toes. Bad pins and needles after about two hours of riding from day three on. Changed the shoes on day five and the same numbness was there after a few hours of riding. Frustrating. This morning when I put my work shoes on the numbness returned. Even now my toes have that dead arm feeling.. Any suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullet Posted April 2, 2007 Share Dear BimmyJ Loosen you belt or get rid of those lycra pants. Dr M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 2, 2007 Share Sounds like frost bite chap ... kidding check out the following links: http://www.cyclingnews.com/fitness/?id=2006/letters07-10#Foothttp://www.cyclingnews.com/fitness/?id=2006/letters05-22#numbness...and do a few more searches on cyclingnews.com's website under their Fitness Q&A at this link http://www.cyclingnews.com/fitness/Hope you come right... sometime's I get numb feet but that's only when I wear thicker socks... look around and see what matches your case best and try out what they suggest. Jason2007-04-02 14:33:02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyB Posted April 2, 2007 Share Tx Jason. Good one Dr M. Thought maybe it was the wifes knickers but I didn't pack them for the trip. Keep up with the good advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted April 5, 2007 Share JimmyB - from Jasons link to Steve Hoggs posting on cycling news.com "If there is no positive result with that, consider talking to a podiatrist about fittings under your insole to spread the metatarsal heads and relieve pressure that way." i have had this problem in past, problem usual gets worse as the season progresses (i.e. the more riding you do). I eventualy stuck my running shoe insoles into my cycling shoes (custom made orthotics) and on the very first ride there was a vaste improvement. After this I went to a podiatrist and asked them to make me a cycling specific orthotic (the running ones are not really suitable as they have other bits like heel raisers ect which are not required for cycling). Somepeoples metatarsals "drop" and can cause nerve problems like numbess or pain in the toes, the metatarsal insert helps to raise or spread them thus relieving pressure on the nerves. Specialized have insoles (3 different types) which could perhaps assist with your problem if it is related to nerves in the lower foot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Hey, JimmyB, at least it aint numb nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanieFiets Posted April 5, 2007 Share Had a friend who suffered from numb nuts. Geen gevoel vir 40 minute na hy gery het nie. NOT GOOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewep Posted April 5, 2007 Share The numb nuts feeling is EASY to solve. 1. Setup, 2. a prostate friendly saddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyB Posted April 5, 2007 Share Thank god no numb nuts. Went to the specialist and had xray as the numbness persisted. Last year in March I had a bad fall and broke two metatarsals in my right foot (amongst ribs and clavicles etc). Say no more. Their advice is exactly the same as yours SwissVan. So guess I'm off to the podiatrist. Tx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelsuck Posted April 5, 2007 Share I have the same problem, socks, tightening/lossening straps, praying don't work. Thought I had it solved a while back but now its back. Anyone know a podiatrist with any knowledge about cycling, not the type that fixes flat feet and corns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewep Posted April 5, 2007 Share I have the same problem' date=' socks, tightening/lossening straps, praying don't work. Thought I had it solved a while back but now its back. Anyone know a podiatrist with any knowledge about cycling, not the type that fixes flat feet and corns. [/quote'] And for I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted April 5, 2007 Share I have the same problem' date=' socks, tightening/lossening straps, praying don't work. Thought I had it solved a while back but now its back. Anyone know a podiatrist with any knowledge about cycling, not the type that fixes flat feet and corns. [/quote'] Dennis Rhebock is a podiatrist who consults for Nike and knows a lot about running shoes, don't know if he is any good with cycling shoes though. & is Gauteng based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinton Posted April 5, 2007 Share A question on this - I checked the links provided and their suggestions are as follows " Here is the sizing info you requested for cleat positioning. Shoe size 36 - 38: centre of ball of foot 7mm in front of pedal axle; 39 - 41: 8mm; 42 - 43: 9mm; 44 - 45: 10mm; 46 - 47: 11mm 48 - 50: 12mm. Does this mean the cleat should X amount of mm's in front of your axle? In other words the cleat is placed rather close to the front of your cycling shoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Posted April 5, 2007 Share I have always suffered from this including numb nuts after a cycle. Mostly get the pins and needles in my right leg, but anything from 30 mins to 2 hours both legs have the feeling of being numb. People told me setup, went to a pro got a setup then started getting pins and needles in my arms as well. So currently I am one riding numb nut. I do find that socks make a huge difference, thick ones cause me pins and needles a lot quicker than thinner ones and your pants can also be a huge contributing factor, try get a thick pad in the buttocks area. As for cleat position I have had mine in just about every position they can get into without any difference. Go and get your back checked out there might be a problem there with a scew spine which would cause such problems......mine is 3 degrees to the left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewep Posted April 5, 2007 Share MuXmAn, when I started cycling I also had the numb nuts feeling. The only solution I found was to fit a saddle with a gatjie in the middle. It really helps, took away the uncomfortable feeling in the nether regions. You can try one of a few things for the numb arms and hands. Best would be a new stem, as it sounds like yours is a bit long, or the setu is not quite right. If I listen to what you say the numb hands can be caused by a streched out position forcing you to put too much weight on your hands. If this is not it, the cheapest solution will be gloves with gel and/or the Fizik bar gel. More expensive is a 'wing' shaped bar. I have one on the 'dale and it's much more comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted April 5, 2007 Share A question on this - I checked the links provided and their suggestions are as follows " Here is the sizing info you requested for cleat positioning. Shoe size 36 - 38: centre of ball of foot 7mm in front of pedal axle; 39 - 41: 8mm; 42 - 43: 9mm; 44 - 45: 10mm; 46 - 47: 11mm 48 - 50: 12mm. Does this mean the cleat should X amount of mm's in front of your axle?In other words the cleat is placed rather close to the front of your cycling shoes? Quinton - those measurements refer to the distance the centre of the ball of your foot should be (according to Steve Hogg) in front of the centre line of the pedal axle. i.e. if you wear a size 42 - 43 shoe then the centre of the ball of your foot should 9mm forward of the centre line of the pedal axle. If you want to try this method then you need to move the cleats whichever way is required to achieve the desired measurement. The best way to do this is to wear your shoes and draw a line that corresponds to where the centre of the ball of the foot is on the inside of the shoe that you can see while sitting on the bike with shoes clipped in, place your pedals in the 9 and 3 clock position with the crank arms and shoes parrallel to the ground, the line you drew should be x mm forward of the centre of the pedal axle. If it is ot then adjust the cleats untill the measurement is correct. A lot of people have the ball of the foot directly over the axle and if you have "dropped" metatarsals this can cause issues. The object of this exercise is to place the metatarsals forward of the pedal axle where most of the force (pressure) is generated. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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