Iwan Kemp Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Guy at my work also sold his cause "it handled funny". Avenza on the open road is quite fun and action packed!
stevenvj Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 This is very sad news and a terrible way to end a weekend.My condolences go out to his family and wish the daughter a speedy and full recovery They are in our prays
predictor Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Very Sad, At least recon he spent some quality time with his daughter. Condolences to his family
Wyatt Earp Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 I just spoke to Dimitri who is feeling very sad and quite bad regarding this, does anyone have detail as to who the family were and which hospital the girl is in we would like to go and visit them as a cycling family.
blockhouse Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 The first generation Fortuner has an inherent problem regarding the chassis/suspension geometry. There was no recall, as they didn't have a solution other then replacing the vehicle, and lets face it, in the capatalist world in which we live that was not going to happen. The problem has apparently been rectified in the latest generation. If you going to buy one of these second hand, make sure it's not a first generation vehicle. By the way do your own homework, every dealer will tell you that the problem has been rectified on their vehicle
peloton Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 The "Fortuner issue" relates to a fairly well publicized 'bouncy' rear response' under gravel road conditions which could - in severe situations - contribute to loss of vehicle control, on the 1st generation of vehicles.   Although Toyota has been lambasted via he internet and word of mouth, nobody has been able to formally prove (or disprove) the effect. Certain modifications to suspension has been claimed to 'resolve' the issue, though, and the later generation Fortuner (sporting a different suspension setup) has been well received.   According to the article the cause of the accident is not known, and it would be quite presumptuous to insinuate that this incident refers generically to "Fortuners".    There is a vast array of potentials that might have led / contributed to this incident, simply assuming "Fortuner" related causes is prejudicial, nonconstructive and sensationalist.  Â
jmaccelari Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009  The "Fortuner issue" relates to a fairly well publicized 'bouncy' rear response' under gravel road conditions which could - in severe situations - contribute to loss of vehicle control' date=' on the 1st generation of vehicles.   Although Toyota has been lambasted via he internet and word of mouth, nobody has been able to formally prove (or disprove) the effect. Certain modifications to suspension has been claimed to 'resolve' the issue, though, and the later generation Fortuner (sporting a different suspension setup) has been well received.   According to the article the cause of the accident is not known, and it would be quite presumptuous to insinuate that this incident refers generically to "Fortuners".    There is a vast array of potentials that might have led / contributed to this incident, simply assuming "Fortuner" related causes is prejudicial, nonconstructive and sensationalist.  [/quote']Where there's smoke there's fire. They are cr@p and the issue has been (allegedly) resolved by electronics,suspension mods and tyres. Thhe basic vehicle is the same. They'rehiding the problem rather than solving it...Â
TNT1 Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009  The "Fortuner issue" relates to a fairly well publicized 'bouncy' rear response' under gravel road conditions which could - in severe situations - contribute to loss of vehicle control' date=' on the 1st generation of vehicles.   Although Toyota has been lambasted via he internet and word of mouth, nobody has been able to formally prove (or disprove) the effect. Certain modifications to suspension has been claimed to 'resolve' the issue, though, and the later generation Fortuner (sporting a different suspension setup) has been well received.   According to the article the cause of the accident is not known, and it would be quite presumptuous to insinuate that this incident refers generically to "Fortuners".    There is a vast array of potentials that might have led / contributed to this incident, simply assuming "Fortuner" related causes is prejudicial, nonconstructive and sensationalist.  [/quote']Where there's smoke there's fire. They are cr@p and the issue has been (allegedly) resolved by electronics,suspension mods and tyres. Thhe basic vehicle is the same. They'rehiding the problem rather than solving it... More likely making it worse by giving a false sense of security...Â
whistler Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 This is truly sad. condolences to the family. however, to blame it on the vehicle is a bit of a long shot don't you think? Driving after a 24 hour mtb marathon is hardly a good idea... concentration levels and reaction times are down by a lot.  Â
Ridemyplanet Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 This is tragic and has deeply saddened all of us. We are in touch with Netcare and will receive details later today so that we can offer the family all the support that we can.
Tumbleweed Posted December 7, 2009 Author Posted December 7, 2009 This is tragic and has deeply saddened all of us. We are in touch with Netcare and will receive details later today so that we can offer the family all the support that we can. Â good to hear. nice to know that you guys have taken an interest in this.
STEEL Niner Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 What terrible news! Condolences to the family and their friends. Summit, ride my planet, would also like to assist in anyway and/or visit when it happens, please keep us informed.
peloton Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 I wonder whether this was a 1st gen fortuner. Did an animal jump in front of it? Did the driver fall asleep, or perhaps swerve to avoid oncoming traffic in his own lane? Was a falling brick thrown from a oncoming vehicle through its windscreen? Or perhaps a tyre blew? Perhaps there was a pedestrian involved, or a log fell from a truck? Could an oncoming vehicle have made a mistake in overtaking? Heart attack? Seizure? Sneeze? A bee/wasp sting? Fallen sigarette?   No, these are surely all impossibilities. It can only be 'the bouncy fortuner effect' I've heard of. Somewhere.
Bos Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 WOW.. how sad. so sorry to hear this.. A word of warning to all that read this. DONT DRIVE AFTER A 24 HOUR race  I drove myself home 50 km on a hot sunday afternoon after 24 hours of Wiesenhof 2 years ago after doing the solo cat and that was the nearest Ive ever been to not making it Home, God literraly kept me on the road.. It was a nightmare I couldnt keep my eyes open and I found myself swerving across the N1 and had no way to get home If Id just pull over(what I should have done)I was lucky. Mabe guys should start stating this warning on the 24 hour entry forms..
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