Bicycle Power Trading & Bicicletta...F*** YOU!!!

[Slowbee]

a couple of interesting points

 

the most important being just what is regarded by some people as spam mail. Some of the posts here seem to suggest that getting normal newletter info is acceptable (not sure why), but getting viagra and give us a million rand type emails are regarded as spam. All rather confusing for some people.

 

It suggests very blurred lines, because either you asked to get the email or you did not. Its kinda like getting those horribilus anus sms's that I dont want (and yes this has been discussed to death).

 

[Skott5]

Actually the million rand type emails are a SCAM - different to SPAM, and does anyone buy viagra after recieving one of those mails ? You deserve to get SCAMMED if you do.

 

A newsletter from a hobby or sport associated body is hardly spam FFS.

[covie]

slowbee, if you never want spam the answer is very simple never register for anything anywhere on the internet. I have work in IT for many years and have seen how they operate. You register on one site, they are affiliated to 20 other sites, and they use each others resources, mail lists and demographics. Not always savoury but most businesses function on a similar way.

 

Most reputable dealers have a privacy disclaimer stating if your address will be sold to third parties or not. Nobody ever reads this. So if you register on a site and they sell your address third parties marketing firms etc, thats unfortuanitly that persons own negligence for not reading the disclaimer.

 

He would have no one to blame but himself in that event. Now if he unsubscribed repeatedly and it was never handled done or handled properly in case he did try but technical errors prevented this. Then i can understand the ramblings and lashing out.

 

But here theres swearing and acusations and a hell of a lot of assumptions around things, which should not be made public till he at least tried to deal with the parties responsible.

 

Case in point was you dont see everyone else posting threads becuase they are tired of getting porn ads in their e-mail?

 

And yes there are many different official classifications of what constitutes spam.

 

This thread to me is the equivelant to shooting the guy that is trying to deliver the latest hi fi corporation flyer to my mailbox at home, I also did not ask for that and I cant even get them to ever stop delivering it.

 

In this case select unsubcribe hit enter and move on with your life.

 

[Mackie]

How to lose your credibility in one post...

[SwissVan]

 

 

SNIPPETY SNIP... 

 

You register on one site' date=' they are affiliated to 20 other sites, and they use each others resources, mail lists and demographics. Not always savoury but most businesses function on a similar way.

 

Most reputable dealers have a privacy disclaimer stating if your address will be sold to third parties or not. Nobody ever reads this. So if you register on a site and they sell your address third parties marketing firms etc, thats unfortuanitly that persons own negligence for not reading the disclaimer.

 

..... SNIPPETY SNIP 

 

[/quote']

 

Maybe Shamus the Famous can respond to whether Biceletta operate as discussed above?

 

 

[AfreekduSoet]

slowbee' date=' if you never want spam the answer is very simple never register for anything anywhere on the internet. I have work in IT for many years and have seen how they operate. You register on one site, they are affiliated to 20 other sites, and they use each others resources, mail lists and demographics. Not always savoury but most businesses function on a similar way.  [/quote']

 

What you describing isn't unsavoury, it is illegal UNLESS consent is given.

 

But with you on the manner in which this has been "handled".  Someone should start drinking a sugar extra in his morning coffee.

 

 

[Christopher Brunsdon]

Well I opted in to receive mails from Biceletta and I'm not receiving more than the norm SPAM.

 

But then again, I tossed my tinfoil-hat away.

 

[Slowbee]

Actually the million rand type emails are a SCAM - different to SPAM' date=' and does anyone buy viagra after recieving one of those mails ? You deserve to get SCAMMED if you do.

 

A newsletter from a hobby or sport associated body is hardly spam FFS.

[/quote']

dude, you need to ride your bike more and relax.

 

However - your post raises the exact point.

 

million rand emails in any inbox ...... should be regarded as spam (even though it is advertising a scam). It is unwanted email.

 

recieving viagra type emails take up time/data etc and is also unwanted.

 

getting a newsletter (even from your local potato box hobby shop), which is unwanted (i.e you never asked for it), can this also be regarded as spam?

 

if it is unwanted is it spam?

 

Covie, agree its easy to stop on your side, but then fine line between when people decide that its acceptable and when not (ie. potato hobby shop newsletter is acceptable ... but viagra not)

[covie]

 

What you describing isn't unsavoury' date=' it is illegal UNLESS consent is given.

 

[/quote']

Actually it is not illegal,  internet is public domain and theirfore the owner of that domain may choose to do with information entered onto his her site exactly what he she wants.

 

some sites gauruntee you they wont mis use your details simply to reasure you that they wont sell it off and that you dont mind regsitering. On the site, there are actually organizations like trustee that sites belong too and if you see the logo you know your information is safe.

covie2010-06-18 07:19:29

[Curlygirl]

I thought chics where good at moaning and carrying on .....  Well done chaps!  Now go have a cold one already

[Guest coenie]

 

What you describing isn't unsavoury' date=' it is illegal UNLESS consent is given.

 

[/quote']

Actually it is not illegal,  internet is public domain and theirfore the owner of that domain may choose to do with information entered onto his her site exactly what he she wants.

 

some sites gauruntee you they wont mis use your details simply to reasure you that they wont sell it off and that you dont mind regsitering. On the site, there are actually organizations like trustee that sites belong too and if you see the logo you know your information is safe.

Covie, look here http://www.ispa.org.za/spam/south-african-law it is illegal

Unless the comply with

 

(b) with the identifying particulars of the source from which that person obtained the consumer?spersonal information, on request of the consumer.

 

(4) Any person who sends unsolicited commercial communications to a person who has advised the sender that such communications are unwelcome, is guilty of an offence and liable, on conviction, to the penalties prescribed in section 89(1).

coenie2010-06-18 07:29:17

[covie]

Coenie trust me its not. I have worked in this field for a very very long time. I currently handle IT  Risk analysis cases like this for a UK bank. And there is nothing illegal about it, if they obtained your information in a legal way. I.E. you registered on any website where it does not explicitly say they will NOT use or sell your details. covie2010-06-18 07:29:39

[covie]

I dont like it you dont like it but thats unfortuanitly how the global intenet machine works.

[Guest coenie]

Coenie trust me its not. I have worked in this field for a very very long time. I currently handle IT  Risk analysis cases like this for a UK bank. And there is nothing illegal about it' date=' if they obtained your information in a legal way. I.E. you registered on any website where it does not explicitly say they will NOT use or sell your details. [/quote']

UK is not SA

And if they can not tell you where you they got your details....etc...then it is illegal read the link that I posted

[Slowbee]

I thought chics where good at moaning and carrying on .....  Well done chaps!  Now go have a cold one already

 

cold one ? where ? is it on you?

 

[dirtrider]

Bunch of f$43king clever people we got on here . Coenie I suggest you read the whole document and not just the chapter headings !