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If ever the frame of my special (ized) bike break's I am buying chinese plastic ;) It costs much less and probably comes out of the same factory as the expensive frames :)

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If ever the frame of my special (ized) bike break's I am buying chinese plastic ;) It costs much less and probably comes out of the same factory as the expensive frames :)

 

You got stop saying that man. No offense but it sounds really silly.

 

Quality is not factory dependent, it is design dependent and comes down to drawing specification.

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You got stop saying that man. No offense but it sounds really silly.

 

Quality is not factory dependent, it is design dependent and comes down to drawing specification.

 

+1 :thumbup:

 

Wondered about that UCI thing, saw a frame in Complete Cyclist with it on. One of the Medscheme TT bikes.

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http://velonews.competitor.com/files/2011/01/Screen-shot-2011-01-20-at-11.41.42-AM.png

 

So now the UCI wants frames to have these stickers on them at a cost of $14,000 per model.

 

What benefit does the buyer of the frame get and what will this add to the cost of already high frame prices?

 

Full article here

https://www.bikehub.co.za/forum/links/goto/11-velonews/

The benefit is that the rider now has a guarentee that the frame he buys is correctly designed and tested. I have come across companies myself who do not use engineers to design soe of their stuff. One company in question I was working with at a stage had a "tech guy" who used to design their frames. His previous experience before joining was that he worked at a bike shop for 7 years. They made him responsible for design and sourcing of alu frames at their company.

 

Now you guys tell me. Would you not want to know if you were buying a bike and this was the kind of company that "designed" it. $14000 is not a lot of money at all when it comes to bike companies. Probably what they pay an engineer for 2 months in their company or his yearly bonus. Absolute minimal so I do not think it is money making. I think it is there to protect the riders from sub quality frames that can fail and protect themselves and others racing with them.

 

Don't forget, we are all thinking with our african mindset of corruption and theft. UCI are Swiss based and I highly doubt any of these guys are trying to get rich corruption style.

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This seems to be only relevant to professional cyclists!

I think it will be relevant to UCI sanctioned races which has loads of non-pro riders. Giro del Capo being one of them and I have seen one or two Chinese brands in there last year.

 

:)

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:clap: Hear hear Kiwi!

 

It is a tax being imposed on cyclists by the UCI. Soon, no bike without it will be allowed to compete in UCI events (regardless of wether ic complies or not). Cost will be passed on to customers - easy money.

 

Next thing we know, CSA also only allows bikes with the sticker to compete at SA's....

 

The UCI are a bunch of greedy, corrupt bureaucrats, only interested in shoving money in their own pockets, they are not acting in cycling's best interest (exactly like the driver's licenses we use that was printed by Shabir Shaikh.....). The UCI can shove their sticker - no place for it on my bikes.

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@ THE BREAK

 

 

Dont be so gullible, I mean any decent manufacturers racing internationly are not using the gardener to design their bikes.

 

So the Swiss are not robbers what the hell is Swiss banking doing by hiding taxes and ill gotten war gains.

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@ THE BREAK

 

 

Dont be so gullible, I mean any decent manufacturers racing internationly are not using the gardener to design their bikes.

 

So the Swiss are not robbers what the hell is Swiss banking doing by hiding taxes and ill gotten war gains.

 

This company did not have international riders, but sold thousands of bikes in the contry they where located in. I knew the guy personally who did the job and this is how I knew all of this. There is some scary stuff out there going on. I think people who think there is a intelligent mind behind the design of all the bikes out there (especially those chinese makes who have no apparent R&D department) are the gullible ones.

 

I am not saynng that any one country is impervious to corruption. I am just saying that $14000 is not the kind of way to get rich by testing maybe 50 bike brands and then trying to steal it. I think they would do better to ask an extra $5 from every cyclist with a license on earth.

 

I think it is about time our industry is regulated as is the motor industry. We want safe bikes on the roads, not rubbish that will hurt more people than just the guy who bought it. I think this is a good step in the right direction. Besides, if it add maybe $5 to the retail price of the bike I would be very surprized, but hey, look what you get. Proof of a proper design and testing.

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