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If memory serves me right, ZS-SND was the one with the broken door the other day here in Germany.

Poorly trained pilots and not sticking to procedures. On the first link you I posted there is a link to the full report. Browse to page 17 for the initial findings. You will read things you would not expect from any half trained pilot. In short the ILS was working but they came in high and fast. Instead of calling a fly-by they still continued to land. Landing gear was down etc. Somewhere along the line they seem to have decided to do a fly-by be it was never called out or communicated with one another but they did retract the landing gear. By some chance the got the ILS slope and must have decided to continue with the landing. The basically put down the aircraft on the runway without the landing down, skidding on the engines and then decided to do a go around and opening the throttles and take off again. Both engines were damaged and failed in the process and just before comming in for the second landing they went down.

I see a preliminary report is out on the Airbus A320 crash of Pakistan International. Full on pilot error. https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/pakistan-international-airlines-flight-8303-crashes-near-karachi/?utm_campaign=website&utm_source=sendgrid.com&utm_medium=email Any Saffas still trying to get back home, should you get offered a repatriation flight on a Pakistan carrier ... I suggest you rather walk home. https://apnews.com/3b9899d6f9d674fdb7b2debb1b7dbdf7?utm_campaign=website&utm_source=sendgrid.com&utm_medium=email

That'll be the day I start running on water.

So nice of her to leave some for you

Honest statement gets honest response gets honest "jump on my high horse" fit

And the print would be in your underwear.

They got booked on a KLM flight on Monday lunchtime to Amsterdam and then flew Tuesday lunchtime out to Cape Town on KLM. They are all in quarintine there at the moment.

Well I happen to know a bit what happened their. I spent my Saturday afternoon on the phone with the SA Ambassador to Germany trying to find some information on behalf of those left behind. The flight was overbooked from the start. Don't think it was so many seats. But there were people seated in the plane ready to takeoff. But they had to wait quite a while and eventually the opened the cabin doors for ventulation. When the finally got the go-ahead to roll out, the problem came in with one of the doors That is when the flight got cancelled. Lufthansa Technik fixed the door but then people sitting around the problem door were removed. So the end figure was that 45 odd people was left stranded on Frankfurt airport.

Seems to be pretty big here in Germany

Reason why I asked ... https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2020-06-14-last-saa-repatriation-flight-out-of-europe-leaves-45-behind/#gsc.tab=0 I know someone who was one of the affected passangers. Spent my Saturday afternoon talking to the SA ambasador trying to figure out wtf is going on.

Question to @LWB. If a door (entry doors into cabin not cargo door) was to be fixed on an airliner, is it regulation that for a number of seats around that door is not to be occupied for the next flight and if so for how many flights is this the case?

A 73 year career. Many don't even live that long. Amazing.

I'll translate ... "Thas is a very real German sheppard dog"

I worked a bit on those subs but only spend a little time on them and only while they are docked. No bloody way will I go out at sea in any sub thank you.

Remember one thing about US military equipment, they will do the maintenance and supply the support personell. They don't quite sell a of the shelve product. During the arms tenders as far as I remember they offered a squadron or two of F16's for almost free, but they will have their own support staff and people looking after the aircraft. No such thing as training your people to maintain the aircraft. It is all good and well until you are in conflict with another US buddy (lets for argument sake say Botswana). All of a sudden you have no support staff, no spares and no weapons that go with it and then you have a squadron of very fancy toys.

I like both Boeing and Airbus aircraft. Personally I think a debate between Boeing and Airbus is like a debate between BMW and Mercedes. At the end both are good products. Both have pros and cons. Boeing also had a bit of a rocky start with the 787 with those batteries causing fires. Personally I think for SAA to get up in the air proitable I would go now for a fleet of A350 and A320 neo aircraft. Alternatively a fleet of 737-800 and B787 aircraft would also do the trick.

Any idea what aircraft they will be looking at?

Sorry to hear

You mean aicraft that are being returned and not to be used by SAA anymore?

Know a Saffa who is currently stuck in Frankfurt who is now booked on that 11 Jun flight

I see SAA is doing a few repatriation flights. Family friends of ours are currently on a SAA A340-600 on the way back from Brisane to JHB. I noticed these three aircraft going to Accra which I am pretty sure is also repatriation flights. Surely it would have been cheaper to fire up a A340-600 than to send three A319 aircraft to do the same job.

Remember this. Was discussed here on the hub. Didn't the police at some stage wanted to lay a charge of murder against the cyclist as well?

Quite a few years ago in Nelspruit an unemployed elderly man was on his way to the Rob Ferreira Hospital to get some medication. He got confronted by 4 youngsters who wanted to rob him. The old man happened to be quite some Karate expert. In a relative very short time he knocked two of them into hospital with some broken bones and broken jaws, the other two made a run for it which he went after and caught one and also booked him into hospital and the fourth oak managed to get away. The next day he had a job as security at a local business.

I lot lies in the facts of the story as well. If the person booked two seats and mentioned to the airline he is paying for an extra seat that should remain open and they accepted the transaction then they should honour it. If he booked two seats and put a name on the seat that did not show up for the flight then it is in the airlines right to put another person in his seat. Also if you are flying with an infant your seat is already reserved for you as there are special seats earmarked for people flying with infants (those seats have extra oxygen masks). So if the man booked his seat on one of those then they will also have to override him