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  1. Let me put the question different way and that would be not mentioning specific drugs like HGH. If in due course a drug is made available which show properties of extending your life and quality of life as mentioned of Carte Blanche but it is banned in sports for performance reasons then surely for an age when you no long competing for "real money" or as a pro you should be allowed to use this drug for longevity while still competing at your local or age cat level even at world champs? It should not then be construed as an advantage because I certainly would hope everyone would be on the stuff as we all want to live for as long as possible and have a good life - health wise while doing it - right?
  2. Turning the tables - why should I not be able to invite WADA / SA drug free sport to my house right now / ASAP to do a complete test which I will quite happily even pay for (all they will find is the what I have had to drink tonight). Then tell them I want to use drugs for longevity reasons as I am hitting the age of 40 - yup I did those test too - and I want to live comfortably for as long as possible - so please remove these drug from MY banned substance list? Some may argue well you can afford these drug - I would argue - like anti retro's for HIV+ patients - the state should provide! Yup I am 1 of those suckers who pays tax for Zuma's house up grade of how much!!!???
  3. Read my earlier post of been 100% healthy - yup if you have cancer cell you not 100% healthy and HGH will possibly speed up the grow of these cell - I am not at all suggesting HGH is the drug of choice for all 40+ people. Each person would have to do their own research / tests! As I have not done all the test it is possible that this is not the drug for me to cheat death - but if it is.... I want it!!!!!!
  4. A msg who I sent to Facebook friend (elite cyclist) who beat me a killarney tonight (before coming onto the hub) - ended in me stating I am past my sell by date, this is truly what I feel as a competitive cyclist - but that does not mean I do not want to live forever!
  5. Got this pvt msg from a fellow in a hubber and now I am really not sure where to go! Did not really want to post in a open forum. My opinion on HGH is that it is great stuff for anti aging. I have done plenty of reading on it and from what I have read it is safe to use as long as you don't overdose over a long period. It does unfortunately improve your athletic performance. I am 53 and feel like I am 30. This was my answer - I have had a few to drink after coming 5th a Killarney tonight (Cape town racers will understand ) even in this wind - we the break avg was 43km/h! Thank for the private msg - this confirms what my friends tell me, problem is I still want to race and live forever!!!! How do I get the best of both world - and I don't think WADA or SA drug free sport accommodate guys who are moving on who want the best of both world. If I were to take drugs health and longevity would be the only reason - sport would be way secondary to that - yup I want to cheat death and death alone! But I am also a proud honest sports person and here lies a cross roads! Do I give up competitive sport to have longevity and a more comfortable life - or put sport something I also live for ahead of life itself? It is a serious cross roads - possibly the worst with the most serious of consequences (death or having reputation tarnished) in my life I have had to face! But should it be - life is more important to me than reputation! But I don't find any comfort in this answer.
  6. How stupid {Audi driver(s) - quite a few motorist actually}- cannot wait just a few seconds for the cyclist but has ample time to have a debate on the side of the road!!!
  7. While I was on the PPA committee earlier this year we had CSA and and a representatives of SASCOC meet with us at 1 of our monthly meeting - this was about PPA falling out of bed with CSA. But 1 thing which the SASCOC representative repeated on more than 1 occasion was when you put on your National kit you are representing 50 million South Africans. This statement made me think - well what amount of SARS revenue ends up at CSA for argument sake - the answer was nothing. Considering anybody - even the kid buying a toy - pays VAT i.e. revenue collection for SARS / national treasury, then all consumers are tax payers and from day 1 be it nap-pies you are a consumer and thus SARS gets some benefit - if SARS then were funding South African sports people - then you would be representing 50 million - correct? But it does not - Lotto funding does and thus you are representing those who play Lotto - right? Recently as a RSA tax payer I was selected to ride at world champs in the 39 to 44 cat and even won some races. For this honor (no I am not having a dig at CSA) I got to BUY even my own skin suit (by the way had the Lotto branding on it), along with paying for my own air ticket, hotel and car hire (and they wonder why cycling is an elitist sport)! Not to mention the time spent training to compete at the highest level. Really should I not get a tax refund for this? SARS has more or less covered every loop hole in the system so sports expenses cannot be tax deductible - yet for argument sake when the Rugby team win the world cup the whole moral of the country improves and no doubt as a by product people work better and spend more all contributing to SARS revenue collection. So as an (tax paying) individual who has been selected represent your country in your national kit and then even go and win some events why should that individual have to carry "all" ( I got an international CSA license for free and for most of the riders CSA paid their insurance in case of an accident at the event) the costs/risk? Surely SARS should offer individual representing their country in sport a tax concession and possibly a full refund on their personnel tax for the years they compete for their country i.e. just not taking money from that individual - what ever the amount may be! Even in the most Capitalist country like the USA you will received 1 million dollars for winning a medal at the Olympics - I been told! I a not sure what RSA is socialist or capitalist - but surely SARS should come to the party for sports people representing their country?
  8. I am not saying HGH is the wonder drug yet - but drug are / have been designed already which may well be if Carte Blanche has any substance behind their documentaries. My suspicion is from a sports perspective is these drugs will be banned!
  9. Problem is I am still highly competitive - even at world level! So yup too afraid to use anything. But why should I have to make a choice for sport between an "easier (less pain worse eye sight worse hearing)" and shorter life when for people not doing sport could quite happily use these drug and governments ( like they do with AID's drugs) should possibly even hand them out for free for 100% healthy people! More and more drugs are currently been designed for longevity - so no doubt if it is not HGH it will be something different quite soon! I not looking to cheat in sport - the stakes are higher - I want to cheat my own natural death and prolong my own life! http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/548875_10151297017145310_1076057554_n.jpg http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/604153_10151297017550310_606560354_n.jpg
  10. Carte Blanche - did a documentary not so long ago on drugs which would possibly be able to extend our live to 1000 years of age - now why if WADA or SA drug free sport put these drugs on their banned list WHY should sports people be denied the possibility of living longer? HGH is probably just the starting point of what is available / already been designed!
  11. Unfair advantage - why? I am not looking for that I am looking for longevity! If you all are allowed to do it - and then gov were even to hand it out free of charge where the advantage. I am sick (no pun intended) and tired of gov trying to keep unhealthy people alive for long (their are enough people in the world) - why not keep healthy people alive for longer? This is said tongue and cheek!
  12. Healthy -people - a person who has cancerous cell is not that healthy and yes HGH will speed the development of those cells! I am talking about a person (I think I may be one of them) who is 100% healthy. Darwin theory should come into play here - long term survival of the fittest!
  13. I turn 40 this week and would like to take Growth Hormone (HGH) ( The drug called the fountain of youth) for longevity - my belief /what I have been told is it's like the new salusa 45 - just work a hell of a lot better from lubricating your joint to getting better eye sight and hearing. But I also do sport for health reason / longevity and am subjected to been tested - so I don't! Surely if something is going to keep you healthy and maybe even keep you living for longer it shouldn't be banned - or made legal to a certain limit or legal after a certain age? Maybe not a good example but: People or Gov are quite happy give out Anti retro for HIV + people which is ultimately so HIV+ people can live longer with more comfort - ageing also causes death (maybe still the most common cause of death) and HGH in small quantities are meant to do the same / have similar effect for healthy people as anti retro's do for HIV+ people from what I have been told! If gov were to give out "anti ageing drug" for free - would this then make them legal in sport? Anyone with a direct line to drug free sport?
  14. Drinking is also a drug! The last time I looked alcohol was on the banned list. Drinking and driving / cycling is also illegal.
  15. I am all against dope in sport - but how many professional people (banker included) use "recreational drug" (cocaine, CAT etc) to get through their high stress business day? Sometimes business men out of sport point fingers at sports people when behind "not such closed doors" they too are taking drugs! Pot calling kettle black! They may not be tested but these drugs - but these drugs are also illegal!
  16. For tomorrow Maybe I should start a new thread: HGH - Wada, Sa intitute of drug free sport - why can I not use it - I turn 40 this week? Is this a worth while debate?
  17. Once again as per the link of the page does this not answer your question? "The main purpose and object of the association is to promote cycling and the interests of cyclists. Without limiting the generality of the aforegoing, the association shall have the following ancillary objectives: (a) to be a representative body for the furtherance of the interests of cyclists; ( to promote cycling as a recreational activity, a sport and as a means of transportation; © to improve conditions for cyclists with particular regard to their safety; (d) to arrange and organise cycle tours, fun rides and outings; (e) to co-ordinate cycle tours, fun rides and outings organised by other bodies and to assist them in their efforts; (f) to establish contact and liaise with and where appropriate affiliate with other organisations having similar or alike interests and objectives." What it does not indicate is for a financial perspective their main goals should be to invest as much money possible! Not sure why B and C look like they do and I cannot seem to change them
  18. EPO is a bad example! I turn 40 this week and would love to take Growth Hormone ( The drug called the fountain of youth) for longevity - my belief is it's like the new salusa 45 - just work a hell of a lot better from lubricating your joint to getting better eye sight and hearing. But I also do sport for health reason / longevity and am subjected to been tested - so I don't! Is this also right? Surely if something is going to keep you healthy and maybe even keep you living for longer it should not be banned - or made legal to a certain limit or legal after a certain age?
  19. I got this a while back from a fellow Hubber: http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/534131_10151295627345310_1171943072_n.jpg http://altitudetraining.com/cat/aux/about/ethics/physiological The Ethics of Altitude Simulation in Sport As the use of prohibited performance enhancing drugs becomes more prevalent in sports, the governing bodies (IOC and WADA) are coming under increasing pressure to proactively eradicate such practices in sanctioned sporting events. CAT has always seen itself as a significant part of the anti-drug movement, and a contributor in the move towards creating a level playing field for athletes. Recently, however, attention has been diverted away from the real issue at hand to focus on the use of altitude simulation technology because some people have claimed that altitude training is tantamount to blood doping, or worse, that it is the same as performance enhancement through illicit drug use. Upon review of the facts of simulated altitude systems as a training aid for sport, the contention that such practices should be banned is largely indefensible. Does altitude simulation technology impart an unfair advantage to the adopters of the technology? No. Before this technology was available, there had been an advantage for those who had access to the mountains, either because of where they lived, or because their particular country had mountains training facilities where they could stay. For nearly two decades, simulated altitude technology has made this opportunity available also to athletes of countries without mountains. The altitude tent is merely the latest in a line of products which has progressively reduced the cost of such technology. Just as with all equipment and access to training, there can never be a totally level playing field, however the ever-dropping price of simulated altitude systems has gone a long way to making this opportunity available equally around the world. Does this justify taking drug to make up for a lower-than average natural hormone level? Of course not, there is a clear difference between physically manipulating the body with drugs, and spending time at altitude (natural or simulated) to stimulate a totally natural response. Is the manipulation of the environment something that should be banned? No. Nothing foreign is added to the air in CAT's hypoxic systems. Instead, some of the Oxygen molecules are filtered out before the air is passed on to the enclosure. This is the same concept as an air-conditioner, which removes some of the water molecules before the air is passed on to the room. Both items create a simulated environment that is found naturally in other places around the globe. Athletes use both of them because it helps their overall performance. Both of these processes have resulted in a more level playing field, not an unsporting advantage. In modern days of increasingly close elite athletic performance, athletes from all geographical areas can have the same competitive advantages. Other examples of technology advancements that have helped level the playing field by manipulating environmental factors include refrigerated ice rinks, heat acclimatization chambers, and even the automobile which allows an athlete to easily travel to different natural elevations in order to "Live High, Train Low." My results: http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/534671_10151295649795310_105384261_n.jpg Haematocrit when from0.4 to 0.48 after 2 months of been in tent!!! So is it ethical?
  20. Edge_Design: The reason for having a year buffer is so the association can honor a years benefits as the membership is for 1 year. So if you join the association today your membership expires in 1 years time - if PPA does not get anymore income in the next 365 days they can at least honor your membership. It is a rather simplistic way of looking at things but does show credibility. Naturally the running cost of the organization can be reduce also in that year if one see the "ship" is sinking. I would suggest also that the property PPA owns or should in future purchase should have a full bond allocated to it and be evaluated at least every years and the bond adjusted accordingly - as this in effect is part of the pool of money that PPA is sitting on and should always be assessable!
  21. Not sure if this link is up yet and 27 pages to long to read - At least he will not be waisting more time money and effort on trying to prove himself innocent!!! http://mg.co.za/arti...banned-drug-epo
  22. Andydude - sorry have been on the road most of the day - so not been looking at the hub that much. Here is the link to the PPA constitution - I don't have a link to WPCA constitution http://www.pedalpower.org.za/about-ppa/constitution-governance/
  23. If you google how to overtake a vehicle (a bicycle is considered a vehicle and subject to the same road rules as other vehicles) you will find quite a bit of info but here some pointer: http://www.rulesofth...overtaking.html . In this link it states: Make sure the road ahead is clear so you have enough distance to allow you to overtake and get back to your own side of the road without forcing any other road user to move to avoid you. If I am reading this right that you are expected to overtake in a separate lane? If so is the 1.5m rule not a concession to the current rule i.e. even if you are 1 cyclist riding far left another vehicle should still overtake in a separate lane which would offer you more than likely on a narrow road at least 2.5m? I quite like that rule as a cyclist! But it has not been enforced - so why should I believe the 1.5m rule will be enforced unless some major campaigning is done by the cycling bodies? Should we the cycling community not also be asking in conjunction with this concession that cyclist should on all road be allowed to ride legally 2 abreast? A little bit of give and take would be nice! As for Chapman's Peak the 20 km/h sign posted basically makes it illegal in many ways as to why a motor vehicle should not be trying to pass a cyclist on that stretch of road for 2.2km! These comment were found on more than 1 web site: overtaking check list Remember, to overtake safely you must: • Have a clear uninterrupted view of the road ahead. • Check rear-view mirrors and clear blind spots. • Signal your intentions before and after overtaking. • Not exceed the posted speed limit. When you must not overtake You must not overtake another vehicle when: • It is stopping or has stopped at a pedestrian or children’s crossing. • It has stopped at an intersection (unless the driver signals that they are turning left or right and it is safe to do so). • There is a ‘NO OVERTAKING’ or ‘NO PASSING’ sign. • You are nearing a blind bend or the crest of a hill or you do not have a good view of the road ahead. • The road is marked with a dividing line comprising two continuous lines; a continuous line on the left of a broken or dotted line; or a single continuous line.
  24. Also on Chapman's Peak today and congratulation to the construction company for giving us cyclist some consideration - just a pity these sign are not permanent (yet - hopefully)! http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/536365_10151289251855310_1883530750_n.jpg
  25. My point is this and as in the article - Chapman's peak drive is an example where even cyclists may be doing over the MAX speed limit as indicated by the signage on the drive (20km/h), whether this is enforceable I cannot say! If the road is too narrow for a car to overtake as their is a solid white line and lane not that wide then the motorist should wait. Now added to this the cyclist is doing the speed limit - should the motorist even be trying to overtake? A Cyclist riding sole like I was today or 2 cyclist riding next to each other - should not under these condition make a difference to a motorist. By not waiting (be it 1 cyclist sole, 2 even or ridiculously 3 cyclist abreast - I am not recommending either) the motorist would be probably breaking 3 rules of the road i.e. if as solo cyclist 1.5m rule, the solid white line rule and the advertised speed limit. The only factor to consider is if when cyclists are 2 or more abreast does the 1.5m law apply if a motorist is in a separate lane (this would be perhaps the case on a different road)? So on a road which required a motorist to break 3 rules of the road to overtake just 1 cyclist - is the PPA signage appropriate position? In real estate they refer to I think the "3 p" position position position - are these sign position correctly give this stretch of road? Are we as cyclist asking just not to be respected as road users? I am also a motorist and spend probably more time behind my steering wheel than my handlebars! I hope I have explained the points I am trying to get across correctly.
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