Single speed projects

[BenReaper]

where'd you get the tyres? locally?

Hey Meezo, any bikeshop that stocks Maxxis should be able to get them for you.

Alternatively if you cant find any I know for a fact my Lbs have some for (I think) R620.

 

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[IH8MUD]

Help me out. Please

 

I see I get a XT M8000 single crank-set with 30T chain ring for the same price as 

the previous  XT M785  double. 

 

Then with double, I still have to buy a additional single speed narrow/wide chain ring.

 

So I can get the new stuff for the SS cheaper then older stuff.

 

Question:

 

Would the XT M8000 fit the older threaded  XT/SLX BB ? 

 

Both BB's are threaded. 

Both BB's have  68mm/73mm  shell 

 

Thing is the crank spindle?

Is the new XT M8000 also 24mm "thick" like all other Shimano cranks spindles/axles ? 

 

Is so, then I can not see why it would not fit. 

Am I missing something? 

 

Why do I not use the new XT M800 BB you may ask? 

The damn thing requires a new Shimano tool (same as the XTR BB) to fit.   

I do not have that tool and have not seem one to buy. 

Edited August 5, 2016 by IH8MUD

[BenReaper]

Help me out. Please

 

I see I get a XT M8000 single crank-set with 30T chain ring for the same price as

the previous XT M785 double.

 

Then with double, I still have to buy a additional single speed narrow/wide chain ring.

 

So I can get the new stuff for the SS cheaper then older stuff.

 

Question:

 

Would the XT M8000 fit the older threaded XT/SLX BB ?

 

Both BB's are threaded.

Both BB's have 68mm/73mm shell

 

Thing is the crank spindle?

Is the new XT M8000 also 24mm "thick" like all other Shimano cranks spindles/axles ?

 

Is so, then I can not see why it would not fit.

Am I missing something?

 

Why do I not use the new XT M800 BB you may ask?

The damn thing requires a new Shimano tool (same as the XTR BB) to fit. [emoji107] [emoji107]

I do not have that tool and have not seem one to buy.

The crank spindle sizes are the same through out all Shimano Hollowtech cranks, the only difference between the new and old XT cranks are the BCD.

 

The newer 11 speed XT crank has a smaller BCD and the 1x chainrings from Shimano are made with this smaller BCD.

 

If you have the older XT crank just pop an aftermarket 1x chainring like Absolute Black, Kalbo or Rapide on there.

 

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[IH8MUD]

The crank spindle sizes are the same through out all Shimano Hollowtech cranks, the only difference between the new and old XT cranks are the BCD.

 

The newer 11 speed XT crank has a smaller BCD and the 1x chainrings from Shimano are made with this smaller BCD.

 

If you have the older XT crank just pop an aftermarket 1x chainring like Absolute Black, Kalbo or Rapide on there.

 

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Thanks for help. Appreciated.  

 

 

I know about the BCD being smaller.

 

Thing is, I need to get another crank for my new build.  I do not have a spare.

 

Looking around CRC I saw that:  

New XT M8000 crank + XT M8000 30T chain ring  (nearly)=  a new XT M785 double crank in price.    

Then I still need to take of the XT M785's chian rings and buy and fit a 1 X ring from after market as you mentioned. 

 

So to get the "older tech" XT + chainring is more expensive than the new XT + chain ring 

(this is in 1X chain ring format) 

 

So it makes sort of sense to get the new XT at a lower price? 

Performance wise I doubt I'll notice any difference, but I am a bit of a sucker for new kit.    

 

Only little issue is,  both my other bikes use the XT M785  as I like to have part interchangeability on my rigs.

If one rig's part go/fail, I can cannibalize  of the other till I get a new part.

Now I want to go and mess with that for a new look. .       

Edited August 5, 2016 by IH8MUD

[IH8MUD]

Another consideration: 

 

The XT M8000 single chain ring, was obviously designed around 1x11 speed groupsets and 11 speed chains. 

 

I assume 11-speed chain to be a bit narrower than 9-or-10 speed chains. 

 

Will the this chain ring work with the  9-speed chains so the Rapide SS chain  I use for my Single Speed build?

 

Will be a bit bummed to have to use only expensive 11-speed chains and cut them up for a SS?   

 

And the 11 speed chain might not "mesh" to good with say a Rapide SS sprocket at the back?  

 

End up more expensive in the long run.

Spending money on 11-speed chains. 

 

 

(sorry I suffer from mild analysis paralysis)

Edited August 5, 2016 by IH8MUD

[henningvr]

 

Only little issue is,  both my other bikes use the XT M785  as I like to have part interchangeability on my rigs.

If one rig's part go/fail, I can cannibalize  of the other till I get a new part.

Now I want to go and mess with that for a new look. .   

 

Stick with your current recipe, as it seems to work. Your 'new look' will be new for a short while, and then it could turn into a PITA. Or just do it 

[IH8MUD]

Opinion please. 

 

Normally I tend to go for black stem, crank, seat-post et al. 

 

On an unpainted Aluminium frame. (In other words silver) 

Would the following look? 

silver crank,

silver stem, 

silver spacers at the headset.

silver chain-rings

 

Giving a all-metal "silver surfer" look. 

Sort of like an all titanium look . . . but more silver/aluminium shade. 

 

Would this be to much?   End up looking a "Gold Member wannabe"

 

 

Post example pics if you can find any. 

 

PS. The fork, handlebar, brakes, wheel set, saddle is black. I have these already. 

Edited August 17, 2016 by IH8MUD

[henningvr]

On my next SS my crank, chainring, seatpost, stem, bars and brake levers (all Ritchey btw) will be silver. Wheelset and saddle will remain black. I don't think "Gold Member wannabe" at all. More classic old school IMHO.

Edited August 17, 2016 by henningvr

[IH8MUD]

On my next SS my crank, chainring, seatpost, stem, bars and brake levers (all Ritchey btw) will be silver. Wheelset and saddle will remain black. I don't think "Gold Member wannabe" at all. More classic old school IMHO.

 

I love this 

Got your finished build last week and already a new one in the pipeline  . . .  

 

 

Silver Bar would be cool but I already have a nice carbon Easton riser bar. 

Silver brake levers & calipers  . . . I looked for them. The options are limited and very expensive. Like XTR, top end SRAM or Hope. 

 

No SLX brakes in silver for my budged.   

Edited August 17, 2016 by IH8MUD

[Stretched@Birth]

Opinion please.

 

Normally I tend to go for black stem, crank, seat-post et al.

 

On an unpainted Aluminium frame. (In other words silver)

Would the following look?

silver crank,

silver stem,

silver spacers at the headset.

silver chain-rings

 

Giving a all-metal "silver surfer" look.

Sort of like an all titanium look . . . but more silver/aluminium shade.

 

Would this be to much? End up looking a "Gold Member wannabe"

 

 

Post example pics if you can find any.

 

PS. The fork, handlebar, brakes, wheel set, saddle is black. I have these already.

[Monark]

silver like this?

[Monark]

In my opinion, I wont go silver again. Too much cleaning and TLC needed. The Ritchey parts are also very expensive.

[IH8MUD]

Nice  bike!   Very nice.

 

Yup. Something like . . . with the whole frame also silver/metallic 

 

The frame is already silver (metal)  . . . and painting it is NOT an option.  

 

The stem I want is only available in silver.  Raw billet machined aluminium 

 

So now I am no at either a silver(metal)  or a  black Thompson seat post. 

Edited August 17, 2016 by IH8MUD

[Monark]

too much silver looks terrible.

 

Silver frame, silver stem, black bars and seat post - that would be awesome. You can also do what I did and polish the cranks to get rid of the silver and make the alloy shine silver. Clear coat them and they will last.

[henningvr]

I love this 

Got your finished build last week and already a new one in the pipeline  . . .  

 

 

 

 

Slow down, approximately 2 years down the road (for various reasons  ).

[Eddy Gordo]

silver like this?

Nice bike. Is that a 26'?

What fork is that?